Talk: Wraith cruiser

2,500 meters or 250 meter—Tau'ri 21300 03:57, 9 January 2009 (UTC)s?

I think its 250 meters because they also messed up the sizes for the X-302, basically the F-302, and Death Glider, both of which are said to be quite large. The one for the F-302 says it is 70 meters wide and, if that's the case, it would mean that even one would barely fit into a Daedalus class ship much less 8! So I think they made a mistake with those 3.-Railgun88 23:43, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that's really, really off. 2500 meters is roughly 275 football fields long... I don't recall the F-302 page ever saying it had that a 70 meter width, it did say it had a 25 meter width at one point, and that sounds reasonable but I don't think it was ever confirmed. But if the X-302 hyperspace fighter has a wingspan of 75 meters (82 yards, 250ft), then I'm the Queen of England. (I'm not, but I hear she's an SG fan)
There's a reason I personally don't consider the information from those magazines to be canon. —Ka'lel 00:18, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, you have a point, the whole "cannon" thing. In other cases where the info provided from the DVD magazines clearly contradicts the show (like the location of the bridge on a 304) we've gone with the show. In several episodes (most notably Search and Rescue) we've clearly seen Wraith cruisers to be comparable in side to the 225 meter Daedalus. SO, I say what the heck, lets drop the extra zero. The only problem with that is (other than Jaymach... no offense) we don't actually have a size we can put in place of the 2,500. As that is the case, 250 is just an arbitrary number. So, we would have to leave the size section blank as the size clearly isn't 2,500 meters long, which was shown in the show, which supersedes the magazines.—Anubis 10545 01:42, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I Guess Jaymach changed the size again!!!!!!!!—Tau'ri 21300 03:36, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry guys! I fixed the mistake! ;)Railgun88 00:51, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

More Measurement stuff

If you notice, we have the size for Anubis' mothership as only 2000 meters. So, apparently a Wraith Cruiser is 500 meters longer than Anubis' "Super Massive" mothership. If you notice in the episode Condemned, the cruiser that descends upon Olesia takes up far less sky than does Anubis' mothership in Homecoming. I mean, I largely support these sources (well...) Plus... the whole thing about the size of Ori ships being larger than that of the supergate. Just saying... —Anubis 10545 ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 04:38, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

if it contradicts the show itself and is completely counterintuitive shouldnt it be removed —Asdf1239 ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 07:14, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the show is higher in the order of cannon than whatever source you got the measurements from. So if the source contradicts the show (which it seems to) then it should be changed on the wiki. Sman789 ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 23:12, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Destiny

The shape of a cruiser bears a close resemblance to the shape of Destiny... just noticed that. —Anubis 10545 ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 03:57, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

destinies wings are a lot narrower though —ASDF1239 ^DISCUSSION 04:12, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

This may mean that wraith ships are possibly based on old lantean configurations (its where they get all of their flight experience from), we have seen that the cruiser design is a relatively old one, as we have seen from The Defiant One. If this is true, then this may mean that Proto-Auroras and other pre-pegasus ships were once based on the chevron shaped design.--99.141.180.130 21:01, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

"Birth"

Where exactly are these these things Born/Constructed. seeing as the wraith go through quite a few of these things, I was wondering if they are built replacements on a hive ship, but the tech manuals don't seem to show any places big enough. I also think it is highly unlikely they build them on planets because wraith are largely nomadic and it is counterintuitive to be constantly separated from your source of escorts.--99.141.180.130 20:56, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

well, i could imagine them being grown from culled humans onboard hive ships given their comparatively small size —ASDF1239 ^DISCUSSION 00:04, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

I think it is better to ask where were these ships created as opposed to continually produced. So it's a matter of where they first built these ships because they certainly did not seem to build any ships recently. Furthermore the Wraith don't go through cruisers or hive ships on a regular basis, they very rarely are destroyed. The only exception is their war with the lanteans and later the asurans but other than that they went unchallenged. It's stated the Wraith and their fleet are massive but the exact numbers are unknown so it is conceivable that these vessels were built around the time of the great war and have been used ever since. Naturally many would have been destroyed but it's possible they had so many ships from the first go around that they didn't need any replacements since they still had hundreds more. All we know at this point was that the Wraith built ships around the time of the war and by the time Atlantis was rediscovered the Wraith had long since taken to living on their hive ships full time alternating between cullings and hibernation. The Wraith seem to have remained on their hive's feeding grounds exclusively thus suggesting they are not nomadic. Nomads wander from place to place, the Wraith never actually moved all that far. They did not migrate, each hive had its own feeding ground that no other hives could feed there without going to war with another hive something which they did not do because they didn't need them, their grounds were fertile until Atlantis stepped in.

On the layout of the ship Wraith vessels use a kind of neural interface like the lanteans and they rely on their ship's ability to grow bio-organically for repair. Think of when the Ancients designed Atlantis' defensive system and how it only takes I person to direct most of it. Basically it's possible they didn't need very many bridge or controll crews. 67.183.100.160 07:49, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

crew??

it has a crew of 3 and 50 passengers? this seems kind of unlikely to me given that the daedalus is about the same size and has about "a couple hundred" people and the cruiser could conceivably be used to cull areas of planets which would bring many more than 50 people... what does this come from?? —ASDF1239 ^DISCUSSION 02:58, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

DVD magazine. Maybe a cruisers is like an inverted TARDIS - being smaller on the inside than outside. :) —Anubis 10545 ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 03:05, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Is it actually a official source, or can we clear it off of here, where it contradicts the show, at least, because there are a few times where it does contradict the show... Indirectly.74.129.75.153 03:29, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

I actually have no idea where these stats come from. The DVD Collection says it carries 800 Wraith but mentions nothing of the crew. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 03:48, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

well all i know is that theres more than three hybrids in the cruiser during Search and Rescue —ASDF1239 ^DISCUSSION 03:55, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

This kind of fits two things about the wraith, one, in Condemned, the ship really wasnt that big, it was fairly small, as far as the capital ships go in Stargate. Also, this does fit the idea that the wraith want to be able to have as few as possible feeding as possible, since their population has need of lots of humans, and often a shortage, they want to have as few active wraith as possible, less they have to feed. Their ships may largely take care of themselves, being alive, like having an automated ship that takes care of itself.74.129.66.59 19:22, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

there were still more than three crewmen in search and rescue ASDF1239 ^DISCUSSION 22:18, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps it should say, 3 crew (minimum)

Additional known wraith cruiser

The wraith cruiser from the ocean floor on Lantea, near the drilling platform. BrentNewland ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 21:44, September 16, 2019 (UTC)