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Killed off characters? I guess that means Kawalsky returns and dies again?--{{SUBST:Template:The evil O,malley sig}} 01:38, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

What 1929 gate?[]

When Cam returned to 1929, which gate did he come in through? There was one under the sand in Egypt and one under the ice in Antarctica in 1929.67.170.11.211 03:11, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

There was no "gate under the sand in Egypt" in 1929. It was unburied and remained in boxed storage somewhere in Egypt the year before. As for conditions upon a traveler's arrival, an incoming wormhole vortex destroys anything in front of it. Cam knew that and wouldn't have worried about slamming into crates when he came through. From then on it's just a matter of biding his time and timing his "employment" to be with the Achilles' crew 10 years later, just in time to stop Ba'al again - for the first time.Ryan Fruto (talk) (Contribs) 21:23, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing, did he go to Earth though? He could have gone to another planet and taken a ship. --Undomesticatedequine69 01:23, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

well carter was just looking for stars that will send them back far enough to stop Ba'al. so Cam just went through the gate and luckily, it was a planet with a gate that wasn't buried. He then just got a cargo ship or something and went to Earth in 1939 or be4 that.

Come to think of it, in all the episodes where they go back in time (1969, 2010), they flip around the sun and go back to the stargate they came to, although it is slightly different in each of those episodes. So I guess he would have been transported to the time machine, which wouldn't have existed then, and had to have found a cargo ship and fly to Earth. JUST STOP ASKING QUESTIONS AND ENJOY THE MOVIE!--Undomesticatedequine69 (talk) (Contribs) 16:22, 10 August 2009 (UTC)



The gate was unburied in 1928 so he could have come in through the Earth gate. Metroidking (talk) (Contribs) 03:00, January 23, 2010 (UTC)



As you saw, if you watched the movie, the gate was unburied, just in a big box. If you watched the show, and original movie, you should also know that. Also, its only real problem was no power and dialing device, its just as capable of recieving incoming wormholes, it just cant dial out. Without some device, like the one Tealc had later in the movie.

EXCELLENT[]

I have seen the movie already and may I say it was EXCELLENT! And in response to your previous comment, yes, some if not all of the main characters are killed but you'll have to see the movie to find out more and what really happens! I give it 5 *****'s! EXCELLENT MOVIE!! --{{SUBST:User:ThunderClan14/sig}} 21:19, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

  • I agree. I just finished watching it seconds ago.—Anubis 10545 04:40, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I also agree, I watched it a few hours ago and I liked it. Lol pie 05:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Haven't seen it yet, but I plan to on 18th August. Until then I am not going to touch a page involved with Continuum. As far as I know, they don't exist. :D Matthew R Dunn 13:02, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
This was a nice bit of fanservice; I've always enjoyed alternate timeline episodes where the bad guys seem to basically win. My main real complaint was that once the Goa'uld started destroying Earth, that was all we got. We saw them destroy Earth, but we didn't see Earth being destroyed... if you get what I mean by that. Also that all these characters who had come back basically just stood in a line in front of Ba'al and had two lines each. Qetesh well and truly stole the show; it's nice to see what happens when Vala's sharpness and generally deceptive nature have a Goa'uld sociopathic streak tacked on ^^ Overall I don't actually think much of this movie (preferred Ark Of Truth) but it was a nice idea. Of course further unresolved plot points include what happened to Kinsey with a Goa'uld in him (we saw heavy implication of his escape in Full Alert!) and the Lucian Alliance confusion. There's plenty more room for more of this stuff! ReloadPsi 13:52, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Possible Plot Continuity Error?[]

I thought this was great as well, but I did have one question about the plot, I posted in on my blog -- http://cmantito.com/short/10 -- cause it is a bit of a long question to be asked, but I would be interested in hearing other's thoughts on it. And if it does end up being a big continuity error, then I think it should end up on the Continuum article somewhere. Cmantito 21:27, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

  • I think Carter described this by saying that traveling through the wormhole protected them. They would have disappeared too, but because they used the Stargate at the time everything was disappearing, they didn't. Vala and Teal'c were just unlucky that they disappeared first.—Anubis 10545 21:59, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh god, I must've missed that part. I just went back and watch it again, and you're right, that covers it. You are awesome -- you just saved this movie for me. With your permission, can I copy & paste that onto my blog entry? Cmantito 00:36, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Sure. Glad to be of help.—Anubis 10545 02:16, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
It has something to do with them being in subspace existing as energy in the wormhole, protecing them from changes. This form of time travel is very crude, and prone to errors, its not like the time ship created by the ancient, its much more crude, and rough, rougher then the groundhog day device.74.129.75.153 08:57, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately, the page linked above seems to be blank. My comment may or may not conflict with it, based on how accurate my guess of the question based on the answers tends to be.

Firstly, I present that Ba'al's gate connection would have been to an alternate timeline, as his arrival in the past did not/could not[1] occur in the "original" timeline. Secondly, since his connection would have been to an alternate timeline, his actions would not have affected the "original" timeline directly, thus rendering the "ripple effect" observed in the beginning of (and causing) the movie implausible[2].

Lastly, excluding the above concept of timeline continuity, it still would not have been possible for Ba'al's actions to have real-time effects as were seen, as they would have already happened. The concept of SG-1 being able to perceive them in real-time is absurd, and the "shielded by wormhole" excuse is equally absurd as the "ripples" were seen before they even entered the gate (and in fact, caused them to enter the gate. Woohoo causality degradation!). This suggests to me that the entire plot was broken, and that does deserve a mention.

(Reasoning/references)

  1. Citing the stable self-contained time-loop by solar-flare induced time travel in 1969; had this been the case, the primary timeline seen in the movie would have been the "original" timeline and SG-1 would not have existed (and Ba'al wouldn't have retained knowledge of another timeline, as there wouldn't have been one, creating an additional causality paradox).
  2. Citing pretty much all other time travels caused by solar flares (and the time jumper), in which the "source" and "result" timelines (appear to) remain separate and distinct.

AlteranScientist (talk) (Contribs) 00:45, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

I agree that you're right about the ripple effect and the "original-alternative" thing, but it won't be added, because: This is Stargate wiki, what happens on-screen is the truth. Secondly, prove in the real world that you are right and I will do.... eem, something, but even then it won't be added cuz it's not on the screen. While I think that you are right in the "ripples" and the "orig-alter" timeline stuff, and that they were there just to make special effects to make the movie look better and burn cash, it does not deserve a mention because it's a fictional story.

Besides, I tried to confirm my current understanding from wikipedia, but it's just gibberish to me, so this wikis article about wormholes says that it's "subspace bridge". So if one is in subspace, one is outside normal time and space, and in subspace certain laws of physics don't apply like the max speed of light. Maybe the same reason they were unaffected in the movie.

But again, that could only happen if the timeline changes wouldn't affect them, because by the time they reach subspace, the changes have already happened starting 70 years ago when the timelines diverged. You can't dodge a bullet that already passed though you! And again, I agree with your points, but don't be angry at the movie, it's great. Srry about the lenght, I just felt like writing a rant. Jauh0 (talk) (Contribs) 13:46, December 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your response, Jauh0!

Actually, I feel the suggestion here is to include a mention to the internal continuity issues, not necessarily errors in contrast to real-world physics or logic; many articles include such notes of consistency errors, including but not limited to existing parts of the article in question. My previous comment hopefully established that the premise of the plot does indeed (partially) contradict previous on-screen issues.

Unless someone can produce another (canonical) instance of this type of time travel in Stargate that predates Stargate: Continuum itself, I'll go ahead and add mention. AlteranScientist (talk) (Contribs) 00:36, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Where's Major Davis?[]

I was just wondering whether anyone saw if Major Paul Davis was in the movie. Because I've recently seen the movie and don't remember seeing him anywhere. If someone can point me in the right direction, that would be appreciated. -- Matthew R Dunn 10:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

early in the film i think he has a cameo of coming out an elevator

Yes, I know that now, I saw the film again two days ago, and saw him leave the lift right at the beginning. I must've missed that. Thanks for replying though. :) -- Matthew R Dunn 12:11, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

That and he's also "Out of Uniform" lol. No, he's not in civvies. That's also how you call someone who has the slightest thing or things "wrong" with his or her [otherwise complete] uniform. I don't know how Wardrobe could have messed-up this late in the series, but someone forgot to pin-on his metal name tag to his Service Dress Coat (should be on the right breast in-line with the first row of ribbons). He's also rockin' the USAFA Cadet or Airline Pilot Look with those rank "shoulderboards" on the epaulets where metal pin-on insignia should be. I thought these sorts of faux pas were ironed-out after...Season 3?Ryan Fruto (talk) (Contribs) 23:13, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Plot error?[]

Sg-1 was going to where the Stargate was so they could go to Praclarush in order to obtain the ZPM. However, the Stargate there wasn't functional according to Lost City. Is this an error in the plot, or did I miss something.—Anubis 10545 20:33, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

I guess you missed the conversation they had earlier about having to steal a cargo ship, and it being a few days before they would get back. --D Toccs (talk) (Contribs) 14:21, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Good point... they might have wanted to gate somewhere else and take a ship. That is pretty much my answer to every plot hole in this movie. --Undomesticatedequine69 01:45, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Here is a plot hole that cannot easily be explained. When they come out of the ship in the Arctic it is nightime and pitch black. The next day there is brilliant sunshine. I am afraid that can never occur in the Arctic due to the nature of the seasons there. 68.206.54.150 18:50, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, it's easy to explain : that can never occur at the *North Pole* itself. But it can happen further away from the Pole (and still within the Arctic Circle). 70.81.204.67 00:52, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

During Spring and Autumn there is a night and day in the artic circleA scotsman (talk) (Contribs) 01:18, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Actually when you are on the Arctic Circle itself there is only one polar day (24 hours of light) and one polar night (24 hours of darkness) a year. So above the Arctic Circle could mean anything from a few days to (actually more than, because of twilight) 6 months of midnight sun. The area above the Arctic Circle is huge and I can assure you that it is not all that icy everywhere :P So its not really a plot hole, but they were quite unspecific about where they were. 85.145.136.37 15:22, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Movie trailer[]

Do you think that the movie trailer should be kept where its at right now or should we move it? if you think it should be moved, please do it because i dont know where in the article should it be moved.I'd prefer if a profesional would move it. Thanks!—Tau'ri 21300 11:08, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I moved the trailer to the top of the page. It's more fitting there (IMO) because the first paragraph closes with a mention of the trailer, and also people who haven't seen it yet can watch the trailer before reading the plot of the movie.
I also linked to a trailer that doesn't begin with the gateworld logo. Cheers.—Ka'lel 17:18, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Stargate in a box[]

Why when the gate opens does it burn a hole in both sides of the box? Fa6ade 16:18, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

The Kawoosh's Energy Vortex goes both ways before settling into a stable Event Horizon.Thurgood42 (talk) (Contribs) 02:03, July 23, 2020 (UTC)


While the mechanic wasn't depicted' in SG-1; in the original movie, the Kawoosh had a subsequent whirpool effect out the other end.

Two Uknown System Lords[]

As the System lords leave, two others can be seen by the doorway behin Camulus and Yu. If you look carefully behind Ra as he bows out, there they are again. The Male looks alot like Ramius but the female looks unlike anybody before. WHO ARE THEY?

I thought it looked like Ramius too, but he isn't mentioned in the credits anywhere. i thought the other one could be Morrigan but again no mention in the credits. --D Toccs (talk) (Contribs) 14:18, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Satellite Phone[]

Out of curiousity, would a satellite phone (which Ba'al uses to call the president) work while in orbit? I realize that he certainly could have enhanced it himself, but would a non-enhanced off-the-shelf satellite phone be able to make calls from orbit? Photo gamer (talk) (Contribs) 21:33, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know for sure... but if I remember correctly, they don't actually link to satellites, they connect to ground stations/transmitter masts which then transmit to satellites - so in that case they would not work, no.
you got that the wrong way around, they ONLY work with satellites, thats there whole purpose. I assume that if Baal's ship was within range of a satellite that was compatable with the phone, it would work--Escyos (talk) (Contribs) 06:53, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
how did he get a modern tau'ri device anyway? ASDF1239 DISCUSSION 07:53, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
When he had some of his clones live on earth they would have got one A scotsman (talk) (Contribs) 18:26, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
I'll have a go at answering this question, There are two main kinds of satellite phone systems; Low earth orbit systems, such as wikipedia:Iridium_satellite_constellation and Geostationary orbit systems, such as wikipedia:Inmarsat. All systems have directional panel antennas which obviously point towards the planet, so without any modifications you'd need to be between the planet and the satellite in order for it to work. The Iridium satellites orbit around 780km, the Inmarsat orbit around 35,000km. Now we need to know if Ba'al was closer to the planet than that. From the scene where he's killed on the phone you can see the earth through the window, using the relative size of earth through the window, and Claudia Black's height (1.75m) plus some assumptions about the distance from the camera (4-6m) we can calculate the distance from the window to the earth using some simple trigonometry (diameterofearth/2)/((apparent size of earth/2)/distance from camera) we can work out the distance from earth as being 2700km-4200km which is around medium earth orbit. This is way higher than the iridium satellites, so if the phone was using this, he prob wouldn't be able to get reception. However it's way below the Inmarsat constellation, so he should have been able to get signal if he was using that system. I dont recognise the model of the phone he's using so I can't be sure, but its definitely plausible. Kaso (talk) (Contribs) 11:24, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Crediting Errors[]

I know that I have read before that Qetesh was misspelled "Quetesh", now I also noticed that Amanda Tapping is credited as Lt. Col. Carter, not Col. Carter. It is very clear that this movie takes place after Carter leaved Atlantis and then she was a full bird colonel. Should these two errors not be mentioned? 148.136.141.172 15:39, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

In the special features she's credited as colonel, but in the film it's lt. colonel. There's no true indication as to when this film takes place, but the ending of The Ark of Truth was originally supposed to lead straight into this one, placing this film before the fourth season (and even the third season finale) of Atlantis. -- Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk) (Contribs) 16:38, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Sound Effects Goof[]

Okay, so... Both times at the beginning of the movie, when Ba'al is dialing to the 'gate aboard the Achilles, the 'gate uses the slow dial sound effects - i.e., the sounds of a 'gate being dialed by rotating the track and locking the top chevron on each symbol directly - while it's doing so. Just about every other time they've shown a 'gate being dialed to from offworld, it's used the fast dialing effect - such as when the SGC is dialing to P2X-416 in the third season episode, "New Ground". - Tyenkrovy (talk) (Contribs) 16:18, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Plot hole/error?[]

Okay, so I'm not sure if I've missed something here because I'm surprised no one else have mentioned it. So in the end where Ba'al gates into the Achilles, Mitchell and his grandfather kills him. Meaning he would be dead from 1939 onward, right? So if Ba'al died in 1939, wouldn't that have massive effects on everything aswell, like the last clone wouldn't even have existed and basiclly have altered the timeline once again?

213.67.81.92 00:52, October 16, 2011 (UTC)StratovariusFTW213.67.81.92 00:52, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

No, since that Ba'al was the last clone from the present (2008) who went to 1939, his death would have no repercussions to the "original" Ba'al still ruling elsewhere as a System Lord at the time. Therefore all his future exploits and interaction with the Tauri and SG-1 were still bound to happen. This is how the timeline gets "re-altered" and "fixed" by Cam to be more or less what it was as he and we know it.Ryan Fruto (talk) (Contribs) 21:01, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Explanation of timeline goof[]

In the Goofs section they speak of Captain Mitchell arriving sooner than he did

"Captain Mitchell also arrives in the cargo hold much faster than he did originally despite having left at the same time: in the first timeline Captain Mitchell was still on his way when the Stargate shut down but in the new timeline he's right behind it as it shuts down."

This can be accounted for by him not being slowed down by the Jaffa and not being shot, thus he moved faster. You can clearly see Captain Mitchell leaning against the crate by the fatiguing of his wound.

Niteip (talk) (Contribs) 10:05, September 30, 2014 (UTC)




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