Is the image used on this page Public Domain? --CocoaZen 05:00, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Please join the mailing list - i've asked Angela about what image copyrights are acceptable, but she's not around at the moment. I'm guessing that one would be fair use, if possible. Alphax 08:18, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Do whatever you want --SGCommand
- Discussion on this topic of image permissions continued on SGCommand_talk:Copyrights. --CocoaZen 11:56, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- cough* Nearly everything on this page is crap. The Stargate SG-1 RPG books are NOT canon. This needs an overhaul.
- I'm afraid that the Stargate SG-1 roleplaying books are considered canon, and so everything on this page is valid. If you have a problem with this, then you'll have to take it up with both MGM and the writers of the show, who are the people that approved the information written in the RPG books. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 06:52, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Ra with an Asgard host
Absolute nonsense. Nothing in the SG-1 TV series suggests that. The movie shows "a grey" (generic "Alien") as the original host. From whence comes "Farmir" being Ra's host? Ridiculous. I wager a dollar that it's from the frankly-ridiculous RPG stuff that the owner of this site is far too in love with. 81.102.65.219 13:34, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- Technically, the Grey wasn't the original host, but Ra himself. 64.180.93.200 00:29, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
That is true; the being was meant to be the alien Ra himself. He possessed the boy by using a technology in his possession to take the body in a manner similar to a parasite entering and attaching itself to a host organism. Note that this is an analogy to give an idea on how the alien actually took the body.
It was an artificial process, and given its parasite-like nature, it was most likely very physical and involving some sort of energy/energized effect applied on the alien so he could merge himself with a compatible being, which in turn could easily be maintained by the sarcophagus, which in turn would keep him alive.
All of this was rendered irrelevant when Devlin and Emmerich sold the rights to MGM, who wanted to make a TV show sequel. Devlin and Emmerich had a little tantrum over this and abandoned the franchise, and Wright and Glassner take over instead. They revised everything, since the original story didn't suit their purposes nor would have worked in the type of TV series they wanted to make. That is why we have the Goa'uld and their empire, the character changes, and everything else that we know as Stargate today. --Exalted Obliteration 19:48, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- If the original Stargate story didn't suit the type of series they wanted to make they they shouldn't have made a Stargate series at all. I think it's obvious that Wright & Glassner didn't really like the movie at all, but only liked the idea behind it, therefore they shouldn't have made an unfaithful spinoff in name only and instead made their own original series dealing with interstellar wormhole travel. 64.180.93.200 19:58, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
- I don't understand why you people have made such a big deal about this, it can easily be explained that Ra had a previous host that was not an Unas, it may have been an Asgard it may not have been. And while the point that the host does not look like an asgard is true, we must remember that the genetic degradation of the asgard gene pool is continuously denaturing them, no the mention the fact that it is doubtful that anyone on Abydos who made the depiction actually saw Ra in that body and he wasn't just sculpting what he thought it should look like.--99.141.205.100 20:21, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
Ra's Jaffa
In SG-1 Ra's Jaffa wear the normal grey armour and have the symbol on their foreheads, however in Stargate they wear whiteish, classic Egyptian clothes and have no symbol on their foreheads. Is this due to there being canonical differences between the film and the series or is it because after the uprising, Ra's Jaffa were all killed and he took humans, and made them his loyal soldiers? —Donovan-j-charlie 23:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
It is an artifact of Stargate before it was adapted and revised into a TV series format from a movie one. Many creative and canonical changes were made so SG-1 would work properly, though oddly enough, in "Children of the Gods", Jack says that he had never seen Jaffa before, and that the characters he encountered on Abydos were human. Either this is an oversight that is later corrected and retconned, or it is an indication of an unconventional practice of Ra's.
Goa'uld have high-ranking human servants called Lo'taurs, so perhaps Ra had decided to have a special group of these servants be trained and serve as warriors to accompany him on a routine and safe trip through his territories, while his conventional militarty forces, including his actual Jaffa, were elsewhere, fighting off the other System Lords.
Also, things like the Jaffa, the revised nature of the Goa'uld, etc. were meant to be new, and it was written and carried forward like that. If Ra's minions in the movie were meant to be Jaffa, the writers likely would have had Jack say that he recognized these warriors, save for differences in attire and armor, but he didn't. This website's entry on Ra corroborates this as well.
Given Ra's status, he wouldn't need to go around his secure and loyal territories with a fully-outfitted mothership and large numbers of Jaffa like the the other System Lords do. He also probably wanted to distinguish himself from the others as well, such as his choice of host, a number of his warriors, and practices like wearing a helmet mask of his own, which is an uncommon if never-used practice amongst the other Goa'uld.
Of course, this could all be wrong, and canonically the warriors with Ra would also be Jaffa, with the right Jaffa attire and armor, and it was simply an oversight early on the show that they weren't. --Exalted Obliteration 20:11, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- It's simply easier to see the movie and the multiple series as part of two seperate continuities. Less head - and heart - ache that way. 64.180.93.200 19:46, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
the grey
the "grey" was just the way daniel imagined it since he had never seen a goa'uld i like the movie stargate but the truth is the shows (exspecialy sg-1 ) are way better and are pretty accurate adaptations there are only very small ignorable differences--Xion1212 (talk) (Contribs) 23:05, November 10, 2009 (UTC) wich can all be reconciled.--Xion1212 (talk) (Contribs) 23:05, November 10, 2009 (UTC)xion1212
Wasnt there a wall painting in the film? Resembling an asgard? —ElChristo (talk) (Contribs) 21:53, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
Ra knew they were coming
In the Stargate movie, is it at all possible that Ra knew that the expedition from earth was coming, this could explain his arrival on a backward desert world with few gaurds (possible humans because he was coming from the "sacred" world of Dakara where Jaffa are forbidden to set foot) and populated by people who apparently despise him. We have seen in the series that advanced peoples (or people with advanced tech) are capable of tracking the origin of a stargate wormhole and Ra may have set up a sort of detector on Abydos because that was the only address that he knew the Tau'ri has access to. I know that in the original movie Jaffa did not exist and Abydos was supposed to be Ra's only planet or something like that, but in the 10 season TV series they need some sort of plausible explanation as to why a small team that just discovered interstellar travel could knock off the the head of state of the most powerful empire in the Galaxy (Ra's arrogance probably had something to do with it to).
- I have a simple explanation, that hardly needs any explanation. He took a small force, because that was pretty much just his smaller more pleasure ridden vessel, surrounded by his favored human servents, some of which had enhancements to make them far stronger then a Jaffa. He wasnt expecting company, he wa just going to collect his shipment of Naquada from primative locals that required no significant military presence, if anything he needed a few gliders to do a few flybys. Ra, and other Goa'uld, are very arrogant, he could have called for more forces once he found the Tau'ri, but... he thought he could handle a small band of humans. We dont know how strong that Vessel he had was, either, it could have been stronger then a Hatak, he was shown to have been the strongest of the Goa'uld, he could have been linging up for an orbital attack.74.129.75.153 15:21, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
New main image
I have replaced the main image with a pic of the unmasked Ra from Continuum played by Jay Williams. Williams played Ra twice on SG1 and the TV show actors always trump the movie actors (we do not use pics of Kurt Russell or James Spader in the O'Niell and Daniel Jackson articles). --D Toccs (talk) (Contribs) 01:33, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
- I've reverted as this represents a Ra from an alternate timeline where he is still alive long after he is meant to be dead. Feel free to add it in the alternate timeline section, but we won't be using it as a main image. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 16:37, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
- We use a pic of Qetesh from Contiuum on her article. This wiki has always used images of the latest actor to play the character. Examples include Jack O'Neill, Daniel Jackson, Elizabeth Wier and Michael Kenmore all of them were played by multiplte actors and we use the current actor in the main image. Ra's main image should be the unmasked Jay Williams from Continuum in order to better reflect the canon of the series. --D Toccs (talk) (Contribs) 00:51, August 10, 2010 (UTC)