Is this the first time we see a Wraith drone (as opposed to a scientist or a queen) feeding? I certainly don't recall seeing it before or since, but I may be mistaken... JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 01:50, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- In the season two premiere The Siege, Part 3, Ford is fed on by a drone and they are blown into the ocean together. It's why he went all crazy on the Wraith enzyme. I can't specifically think of any more, but I'm sure there are some. —Ka'lel 05:43, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Cheers. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 18:48, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Wraith Invasion
The Wraith propably had a different Earth in mind. USA has some 1.5 million people actively serving in their armed forces and ~the same amount in reserve. Yeah, a cruiser full of Wraiths without ships really has the advantage on this planet they have never been to. And I'm not even counting in the rest of the worlds countries like the ones who are already a part of the Stargate program. I'd say the chances of success on this one were below zero. Propably a commander that isn't exactly on the Queens good side. Jauh0 (talk) (Contribs) 16:35, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
- orbital bombardment. ASDF1239 DISCUSSION 04:34, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
- NO SHIPS! How do you fit a cruiser through the gate? I'd like to see that. Yet another thing to squeeze it out of the Cheyenne Mountain. Think about taking the biggest dump of your entire life. Jauh0 (talk) (Contribs) 14:40, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
- that's true. i suppose they weren't intending to conquer the planet in their first incursion; perhaps they meant to find its location so that a larger fleet could arrive. ASDF1239 DISCUSSION 03:16, January 27, 2011 (UTC)
- A small force of Wraith was able to infiltrate Cheyenne Mountain rather easily, so i would assume that taking on Earth`s militaries would only be a matter of time, the Wraith can easily replenish their forces. The wraith have a large number of Hive Ships and Cruisers, Earth only has 5 304s, Atlantis, and the Antarctic outpost. The wraith knew about only two ships, so the wraith probably thought they could take on earth. Lordqaz (talk) (Contribs) 04:59, January 27, 2011 (UTC)
- Take on two ships without any ships? Even if they did have a hyperdrive capable of reaching Earth, the forces coming through the gate are walking in a steel and concrete prison, and as soon as the situation becomes clear to the highest command, they eiher self-destruct the base or just send units to kick some Wraith ass, or they could just keep the Wraith bottles up at the SGC indefinetily. Not to mention that it wasn't that hard for the Atlantis Expedition to destroy the Midway station. True, the Wraith underestimated Earths defences, but that's my point. A simple ground invasion just wouldn't work because of the gates location and they apparently don't have the ships to get there. Maybe Michael, but he wasn't responsible for this. And no matter how big a force was standing ready to invade Earth, it would need orbital support. Maybe several million would do the job, with luck SPECIAL of 10. Jauh0 (talk) (Contribs) 14:01, January 27, 2011 (UTC)
- The wriath probably went to earth to find out its location. They were planing on sending more people to earth and possibly some equipment to pinpont earth's location. They also did not know that the gate was inside a mountain. Also, in many SG-1 episodes people are able to escape the base without being detected. As evident by the episode "Vegas" if one wraith were to have escaped he could have easily let the other wriath know about the location of Earth. Wriath hyperdrives are less advanced and extremely inefficient when compared to earth's hyperdrive technology, but they can still make it to earth as shown in "Allies" and "No Man's Land", the just need to stop every so often. It would take them several months to make the trek and with enough ships they could take on any threat the the Tau'ri could send at them. The only thing on earth that would slow their invasion is Atlantis, but that only has one ZPM that most likely does not have that much power now. In total I would think that the wriath could successfully cripple earth within a year of getting there. Lordqaz (talk) (Contribs) 03:04, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
- Ahem, are you high? The Wraith couldn't escape SGC cuz it's in lockdown and by the time they figure out how to get around that all the exits would propably have been covered by something the Wraith didn't have: Manpower. They weren't shown to carry any equipment to contact the other Wraith, to one in Vegas had to salvage parts from a dart. The hyperdrives in "Allies" and "NML" were upgraded versions, at this point the only known Wraith to hypothetically have those was Michael. By this time they couldn't have a large fleet because they were in civil-war. "They could take on any threat the Tau'ri could send at them". You are not just high, you're also drunk. The Tau'ri could calculate where the Wraith would drop out of hyperspace and use their faster hyperdrives to ambush them with asgard beams, destroy them all and be done with it. Even if the Wraith had a huge fleet they could just thin them out in every engagement. If they managed to get to Earth, their last obstacle, not counting the superpowered Tau'ri ships, would be the drone chair. We've seen that even a relatively small salvo can destroy a hive in the matter of seconds, there is no chance any fleet could survive the huge swarm as in "The Lost City". And "They didn't know the Stargate was in a mountain" That's what I've been saying, they are stupid if they think that they can just walz to a planet of 6 billion with a force that two alien soldiers can handle. And if they just wanted to learn Earth's location, they possibly could find that at Midway. Even if they didn't, they could quickly deduce the galaxy where Earth is and send ships there, just hoping that it's more widely populated, but they can't because their hyperdrives are underpowered. If the Wraith could get to Earth they could cripple the planet, but they just CAN'T! Jauh0 (talk) (Contribs) 10:58, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
- The Wraith can get to earth, it would just take them months to get there. The hive in "Vegas" was a normal Hive as evident by the ease that is was destroyed, demostrating that a hive can make it to earth. Traveling to another galaxy is just like traveling inside a galaxy, it just take more time. Also, a 304 has not been able to win against more than 2 hive ships. They would have to resort to hit and run tactics. The wraith would never need to attack earth after they find large munbers of humans on other less defended planets. The ancient weapons platform has no shield and likely has had its drones moved to Atlantis because the drone chiar was destroyed. Atlantis' ZPM was amost depleted in the battle with ZPM powered hive and it being earth last line of defence would never leave earth. The wriath could easily amass a fleet of 20-30 ships. The SGC cannot be completly locked down, there are ways out. The wraith are not stupid they could have found a way. Once the wriath got to the milky way they would contact the rest of the wraith and more would come. Lordqaz (talk) (Contribs) 23:10, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
- Seriously, it's spelled "Wraith" not "wriath", and "chair" not "chiar". Yes, it was likely a normal hive in Vegas, my theory is that unlike the other Wraith idiots, it began it's journey without letting the Tau'ri know of it. And the 304s would have to resort to hit-and-run tactics? So? Why wouldn't they? They have faster hyperdrives and can destroy hives very quickly, so it's the perfect tactic for them. 3 ships would destroy a min. of 3 hives per engagement while taking pratically no damage themselves, and I do think they can destroy more than 1 hive per engagement, Carter just chickened and decided to avoid damage. Drones moved to Atlantis? *Sigh* Look, I'm sure you've watched an entire episode of Stargate, but the destruction of the chair happened about year later. Same with Atlantis' ZPMs. While the SGC has never shown to be completely secure, it could be easily contained by ~a well equipped company. For some reason they just never guard that damn hatch in the woods. It's a super secure facility, there propably aren't many exit doors or shafts and such, and no Wraith can climb a ladder while getting M-16 fire to their face. The reason why even a 5-year old can escape the mountain is simple plot convinience. But I do agree that the Wraith would not necessarily attack Earth once they found suffient human populations in the MW. Jauh0 (talk) (Contribs) 14:04, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
- earth probably has one of the highest population densities of any world in the milky way, and the smallest space fleet, which is also preoccupied on other missions. i don't see why they wouldn't attack it, especially considering much of the other galactic territory is controlled by the jaffa and lucian alliance. ASDF1239 DISCUSSION 00:29, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
- Meh, but Jaffa and LA don't have drone chairs, and after a long time I have come to the conclusion that Goau'ld ships wouldn't be particularly effective against Hives. 304s shields are at least twice as strong (based on "Camelot") and I just don't see the staff cannons as destructive enough to destroy a Hive quickly enough, but I could be wrong. Maybe they would attack Earth, maybe not. Jauh0 (talk) (Contribs) 13:57, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
- that's true. i suppose they weren't intending to conquer the planet in their first incursion; perhaps they meant to find its location so that a larger fleet could arrive. ASDF1239 DISCUSSION 03:16, January 27, 2011 (UTC)
Trivia
Concerning this trivia: "When 17 of the McKay/Carter Intergalactic Gate Bridge pegasus gates were located in the space, then where would be the another 17 gates of the bridge on the Milky Way side? Milky Way doesn't use spacegates , so I think the gates should be on the ground ."
Wouldn't it be a matter of attaching power nodes to the Milky Way gates? From what I understand, a 'spacegate' is merely a Stargate located in space with power nodes attached.-- — Lunt0er (talk) 03:53, February 6, 2011 (UTC)