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Has this episode been leaked?Alex1442 (talk) (Contribs) 22:13, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Apparently in the Ukraine.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) (Contribs) 22:23, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
Yep, in the Ukraine. It's an awful dub-over in Russian, but it's understandable enough to get a plot summary from. I had to leave out a huge amount of Chloe/Eli fluff, though. They were just too quiet. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 23:31, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

...doesn't sound like much of a "biggest HOLY #%&@!" ending to me ASDF1239 DISCUSSION 00:18, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Well, let's see: Chloe's dying of blood loss, Greer and Scott are about to get fried, the rest of the military is gonna get shot execution style, Kiva and Telford have been shot... For the first season, I'd say that's pretty HSQ worthy. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 00:52, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
still, its just a standard cliffhanger. sg-1 and sga had several like that so i don't see how this is special ASDF1239 DISCUSSION 05:17, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
Admittedly, I may not remember that clearly, but I can't recall any situation where the team was about to be shot in full (a couple of them captured by the Wraith one time, SG1 about to blow themselves up in the first season). It is something of a standard cliffhanger, sure, but for immediate body count if nothing else (plus dead baby, potentially), it's certainly a lot bigger than the other series have done. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 05:27, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
And don't forget foothold situation with hostage crysis to make thing worse --Глючарина (talk) (Contribs) 06:30, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
i see your point...another thing was that they killed kiva off so early, lost potential for recurring villain or todd-type character ASDF1239 DISCUSSION 08:40, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
Kiva might be alive. I was under the impression they were gonna have TJ treat her before the unpleasantness. Dialog's hard to hear, though. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 14:29, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, you are right. Kiva is not dead at this moment. Of course if translation is correct --Глючарина (talk) (Contribs) 15:15, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
Also TJ got shot in the abdomen so she might lose her baby even if she survives.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) (Contribs) 16:38, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

yea that's nice, get the pregnant lady shot. so i guess they just got rid of the unborn child?

I hope not, a baby would be cool Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 00:31, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
I thought they might pull this, but it remains to be seen if they'll really go through with it. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 00:43, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

this actually is a holy shit ending. all the military people are about to be killed. Chloe might die. those two guys on the outside might die. in fact, if one more pulse hits, everyone will die. Unsigned comment by 70.111.242.89 (talk • contribs).

No this is not even close to a holy shit ending. Sure all the military personel are about to be executed, but we know they won't be, TJ has been shot, but she will survive, we can be be sure Scott will get back in, the only one really in danger is Greer. Characters facing death is a standard cliffhanger. A holy shit ending would be if the military had been shot and and major characters were dead. --D Toccs (talk) (Contribs) 02:45, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
you just pwned suspension of disbelief ASDF1239 DISCUSSION 04:01, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
Well to be fair, Chloe should have died a long time ago...it doesn't really give me an epic ending feel to know that her life is in danger :P Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 09:07, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
but she's clearly an agent of some higher power who will singlehandedly hijack the ship, beating both the crew and the lucian alliance, for yet unknown goals ASDF1239 DISCUSSION 10:58, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
What? there is no evidence of that yet other than the fact that there is no evidence (for the sake of a shocker plot-line). but there is also no evidence that anyone else in the crew is an agent for anybody really --99.141.188.95 17:51, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
I believe that was a jock. Still nobody like Chloe, they should do something about it --Глючарина (talk) (Contribs) 18:16, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
it was a half-joke, it would make everything much more interesting though. her acting all helpless and out of place on is certainly be a good cover. i'm betting on her trying to take over the ship while the crew and the lucians are distracted with the fighting. she could even be a goa'uld, a wraith worshipper, or another servant of a hostile force. ASDF1239 DISCUSSION 01:56, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, the blue aliens might have brainwashed her or taken over her mind. A goa'uld would be good too, it would make it feel a little like Stargate SG1 ;-), but it would ruin the whole darker plot. 85.224.204.97 11:16, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

so it appears that that is the case, at least to an extent. ASDF1239 DISCUSSION 05:43, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Eli and Chloe's relationship status change? Edit

Eli carried an injured Chloe away from the Lucien Alliance even though he probably hasn't carried something that weighs half as much as Chloe half the distance. before he leaves her, he tells her "you know" and kisses her. what do Daniel and Vala tell each other in the episode when they are stuck in the Odyssey for 50 years? the same exact thing. why? because they love each other. maybe Eli and Chloe have professed their love for each other off camera? —SupremeCommander (talk) (Contribs) 02:30, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Nothing's really changed, Eli's just finally admitted it outright while Chloe explains that Eli's a friend. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 02:39, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
Even then in their earlier talk before that they pretty much say "you know" and "I know" back and forth. Nothing like the possibility of death to clear up sexual tension. --BustermanZero (talk) (Contribs) 07:05, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

and that's why i think something has changed between them. i think both chloe and Vanessa know another each other. Scott is an asshole. he's two timing two women aboard a frickin ship with no where to go if things mess up... at least that other lady who screws like every guy for stress relief is doing it with each guy knowing nothing's up. they should both just dump Scott. Eli is great for Chloe. —SupremeCommander (talk) (Contribs) 19:11, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I hope that when Greer and scott try to get to that airlock, that greer gets through all right but scott gets a glancing dose of radiation that burns up 95% of his flesh (including what he values most hehe) then he stays alive for the next few episodes while he slowly goes through necrosis and his irradiated cells break down causing excruciating pain and he begins to drown in his own blood. He eventually persuades Chloe who is sobbing uselessly and uselessly incoherent from bloodloss (like she isnt on a normal day) to shoot him in the heaad, but chloe refuses because her life is miserabl;e and a bunch of other emo reasons. Scott then gets really angry and starts hacking up blood and confesses that he is a useess sleezeball. Chloe musters all of her strength and slaps him, causing him to bleed uncontrollably, go into shock and die painfully--99.135.151.142 00:16, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
At which point chloe had a minor open wound on her hand and the blood to blood contact during the slap transferred AIDS to Chloe which, without medication, killed her before a quarter into season two at which point she was replaced by someone not quite as pathetic. Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 01:48, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
that's not exactly how i would expect her to get aids....ASDF1239 DISCUSSION 09:44, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
Well the producers wouldn't want the show to get predictable, would they. Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 10:56, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
Ah well, Mat scott's proably given half the crew aids the...... other way--99.141.204.82 11:55, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
I think if anyone's going to be responsible for the spreading of AIDS on the ship, it will be Lisa Park. Scott seems pretty faithful to Chloe - he was raised by a vicar after all... Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 12:03, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Well that was good... Edit

It was certainly dramatic, though it begs the question why they didn't just shove a few crates in the way of the gate event horizon to stop the Lucian Alliance dialling in.... 109.255.176.74 08:01, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

They forgot. :) --Глючарина (talk) (Contribs) 08:05, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
They could've also dialed into another planet and kept the gate open until a proper plan was in place. Or do what they should've from the beginning: Vent the freakin' gate room. 189.160.195.160 17:43, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
The gate can't be dialed in FTL and if blocking the gate was as simple as shoving a crate in the way Sam wouldn't have gone through so much trouble to move the iris back in "48 Hours". — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 20:17, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

ha! he wanted to save Rush and Telford. i respect him for wanted to save Rush but Telford? they think he is a traitor. either way, sometimes, u need to sacrifice one for the many. there was stupidity on both sides. as soon as samantha carter got to the planet, she could have told O'neil to use the stones to go to destiny. when he got there, told em to block the gate with dialing into another planet..i'm sure they could have dropped out early if they dialed out by themselves...just dial another planet..then again, maybe you can't do that on the Destiny. okay then, just vent the atmosphere and shut down the stones. telford would have been with the LA and rush would be with them they could have just fricken stopped rush from helping them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stupid dum ass plot story.. Unsigned comment by SupremeCommander (talk • contribs).

Telford was brainwashed and Young broke it, so traitor no more. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 20:17, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you watched the English version, but you seem to have missed a few things. First, Young didn't know it was Telford, he thought it was still Rush, which is why he didn't vent the atmosphere. In addition to that, he was absolutely going to vent the atmosphere, but seeing Rush (Telford), he decided to give them the chance to surrender first. What he didn't know was that they had those lockpicks and in a matter of seconds their defenses were breached. He didn't even get a response to his question and by that point it was too late. If you're talking about venting the atmosphere after all of this (ie. when they had more hostages), that's just as risky. There's a big difference between suffocating one man and an entire room of people, most of which are armed and would probably execute the prisoners as they're dying. The Destiny Gate has no iris, so "blocking" it seems out of the question. And I don't think they've demonstrated an ability to dial the Gate while in FTL, never mind not having any coordinates to dial in the first place. MolocKal'el T | C - 20:36, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

I think they should have turned off the stones the minute Rush was captured on Earth. Failing that once Telford revealed the planet and they understood what the Alliance was trying to do, why leave them with Rush the one guy who accomplish their goal. I mean come on O'Neill and Carter have been doing this for 14 years, I think they could have come up with a better plan than "wait and see". Also what's up with the Lucian Alliance, last we saw they were smugglers with leftover Goauld technology, now they can scramble Earth ships' sensers and they have devices specially for unlocking the doors on Destiny, I hope the jump in their technology level is expalained. --D Toccs (talk) (Contribs) 13:44, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Well I don't think that the the door device is a very good example of "a massive step in technology" as it is (as far as we can see) just a small, powerful motor with a cog attatched to it. Jamming sensors probably isn't all that hard either. Malozzi said that their shields can block beam weapons, but as far as we know it might not take a very big modification to do that. Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 16:51, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
They indeed had to return Telford back into his body moment after he was de-brainwashed. Keeping him on Destiny was very stupid --Глючарина (talk) (Contribs) 17:08, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Next time Edit

did anyone hear the conversation between keva and telford where keva said that next time they would bring supplies with the first wave so that could suggest more alliance coming to the ship its around the time that they are negotiating for prisoner exchange BlueSquadron (talk) (Contribs) 17:03, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that bit was discussed quite a bit on the GateWorld Podcast, but I don't think any more LA are coming - I think she just said it referring to the next time they attack somebody, you know, like a "Note to self" sort of thing. Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 17:28, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
I agree with Sman with that. I believe Kiva's was, for now, only Lucian Alliance squad working on the 9th Chevron —Supakillaii (talk) (Contribs) 17:35, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
Sman is right. Jauh0 (talk) (Contribs) 12:00, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

beautiful infobox picture -TheZat (talk) (Contribs) 15:02, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

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