Ha'taks and variants Ha'taks, as defined by the Goa'uld, don't follow our traditional naval classification. If anything, the class names which are attributed to ships in Stargate come from the Tau'ri (as we can see for the Auroras for examples, while we can be sure that the Aurora was not the first nor the last ship made by the Lantians). The "tak" suffix seems to refer to ship, and depending on the prefix, would either point to the type of ship (Ha'tak: mothership, pyramid ship) or a section of the ship (Pel'tak: bridge). It would fit well with Tel'tak, where we can suppose that "Tel" then refers to something as "scout". "Ha" in Ha'tak may refer to pyramid, and thus as a complete term, point to a class of assault mothership, used for combat.
I suggest that at some point, we rethink the Ha'tak page layout to make it general, and give a detailed description of each variants instead. Those variants/"classes" would be:
- Ra's ships (dubbed Cheops-class in RPG material), used by Ra and Heru-ur.
- Standard mothership as seen during the 4 first seasons of SG-1, and one last time in It's Good to be King.
- Sokar's standard motherships, same design, but with extended weapon functions (homing PD weapons and cloak).
- Anubis' standard Ha'taks, which for ages I refered to as mark II, before newer canon material would reveal that all pyramid ships are Ha'taks, which makes it hard to know which one is older than the other. Still, the design differences on Anubis' ships are glaring, from structure to defences, and they deserve their own page.
- Apophis' aborted flagship - destroyed by SG-1 on "oomph" mode.
- Apophis' supership, possibly borrowed from Sokar.
- Anubis' superships.
Mister Oragahn 14:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Huge mistake?
Has the show ever offered a good explanation for how three-sided ships land on four-sided pyramids? —MJBurrage(T•C) 18:26, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
That is a really good point! I'm laughing really hard right now. But surely not all Ha'tak's are only 3 sided. User:Phoenix304
The whole point is that the middle of a Ha'tak pyramid is hollow. That means that when it lands the landing pyramid goes inside the pyramid on the Ha'tak. The 'extra bits' on the side just stick ot the side. It's like aplane not being able to land on a runway 'cause its wings are wider than the runway.-Ascended 999 23:15, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
I was thinking that too, but in every episode I have seen where you know for sure it is a four sided pyramid, such as on Abydos, the "Cheops" class lands on it. I'll have to watch for an episode where a Hat'ak lands to see if the pyramid has the correct number of sides. --Undomesticatedequine69 23:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Memories
Does any one remember when these ships were supposedly all powerful. Ah...those were the days. Now they're just an annoyance. One shot from an ori ship!? Apophis would be most displeased!!User:Phoenix304
- I know, they're the weakest ships in the entire Stargate universe, and I'm glad they're weak. I would really like to see a Ha'tak being destroyed with Asgard plasma beam weapons though. (In the words of Jack O'Neill) It would give me a sort of happy, tingling feeling.—Anubis 10545 02:09, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
yeah, i just had a story play out in my head. the lucien alliance comes to earth with a huge fleet. and for some reason, all of our ships r in orbit. the second they say they r here to defeat us, everyone on the ships and at the sgc fall over laughing, so they start firing on our ships, the shields r at 50% when they say, ok i think we should blow em outta space now. and in a few seconds, most of the ships r blown up lol.
another thing i would've liked to see was ha'taks vs. hives and hives vs. ori ships—SupremeCommander 06:15, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Sure, they are weak, I admit it. But I still like them. I think they are one of the cooler looking ships in the series. --Undomesticatedequine69 23:28, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Although, perhaps they aren't as weak as they were before, though they are still pretty stupid. If you haven't seen the premiere of StarGate Universe, watch it and you'll see what I mean. Although, I don't know that Carter even fired at the Ha'taks in the first place... Anywho, I hope we can find out in a later episode who was definitely behind the attack, although it is assumed it was the Lucian Alliance. --Undomesticatedequine69 (talk) (Contribs) 15:10, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
Well. when you really think about it, they are only weak compared to the vessels of older and more advanced groups, like the Asgard, Ancients, and Ori. The Tau'ri vessels would be inferior if they did not have the ability to upgrade each with Asgard technology, most likely using the transporter technology onboard the Odyssey, and the Asgard Core, possibly other enhancement. We dont know how they would stand up to wraith ships in fights, but seem to be very good, against Asgard enhanced shields, better then the wraith against the Asgard enhanced Tau'ri ships, except they dont intercept missiles like the Wraith do. Compared to all other races in the Milky way, the Goa'uld may have the greatest starships.74.129.75.153 21:47, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
Probably the first Ha'taks designed by P'tah weren't so weak, seeing as they were built from directly reverse engineered Ancient tech that would still be considered rather formidable today. But as time went on the Goa'uld only cared more about the Image of power rather itself, so they made their ships cheaper and cheaper so they could build more and impress their worshippers and terrify their enemies because the Goa'uld seem to be more interested in the thrill of war than actually winning it, to the point where they literally devolved their technology willingly to have more "fun" with it.--99.141.182.124 20:09, March 15, 2010 (UTC)
peltac
shouldnt all instances of "pel'tak" in this page be changed to "peltac" like it says on the peltac page —User:Asdf1239 21:28, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
replicators and asgards
pardon me for my ignorance but do we have a battle scene between these things and replicator ships and why havent the asgard pwnified the goa'uld with their far superior technology —ASDF1239 DISCUSSION 05:00, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
- For a battle scene, I can't remember exactly when that would be, though I just re-watched all of SG-1, so that is very upsetting. The Asgard are in their galaxy, Ida, for most of the time the Goa'uld are in power, dealing with the replicators. MendicantBias1 (talk) (Contribs) 05:20, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Enemies and Reckoning. ugh... just had an edit conflict there with bias' post :) . —Anubis 10545 (talk) (Contribs) 05:21, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
- how do they do against 304s without the asgard beam weapons —ASDF1239 DISCUSSION 23:47, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
- Enemies and Reckoning. ugh... just had an edit conflict there with bias' post :) . —Anubis 10545 (talk) (Contribs) 05:21, March 9, 2010 (UTC)