Pre Hyperdrive? I think the Destiny's FTL Drive is pre hyperdrive. This because the ship was many million years ago. That would make it drive that uses something like tachyon imitation or subspace to travel that fast. What do you guess think?Railgun Out! (talk) (Contribs) 05:12, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
- No, I don't think so --╔▲╠☼╚╡∩║▀⌠⅜⌡├┤∩ (talk) (Contribs) 07:12, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
I bet it is star trek-like warp drive. It probably has some advantages on hyperdrives, but has obvious disadvantage - if you don't know where you go you can just crush into sun, or planet, or black hole or something even worse --╔▲╠☼╚╡∩║▀⌠⅜⌡├┤∩ (talk) (Contribs) 21:06, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
I think the drive is used because sensors still work while it is active, which they dont in hyperspace Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 18:26, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
yet
Hi, guys. We have argument about meaning of this qoute. Does "yet" mean just "but", or it means "not yet through hyperspace, becouse it's not so advanced"? --╔▲╠☼╚╡∩║▀⌠⅜⌡├┤∩ (talk) (Contribs) 17:39, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
- The quote is "faster than light, yet not through hyperspace." In this context it means "but". Faster than light, but not through hyperspace. Cheers. Kal'el T | C - 19:13, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
- I love how Stargate allways manages to get these epic lines in just the right place. I'm not sure if Epic is quite the word, but, you know, it makes it sound like supernatural in a way. It's like the feeling you get at the end of Lost City, Part 2 when all the drones and stuff are firing and O'neill goes into the sleeping chamber. Before I Sleep has lines like that as well. Allthough when you think back about when Rush said it, it is a little out of character to just stand there and say that, makes it sound as though he knew where the ninth chevron went in the first place and it was all part of his plan or something Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 21:11, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
FTL engine on other Alteran/Ancient Ship
Hi guys, I had been wondering since the Ancients might use FTL engine before their invention of hyperdrive, is there any other ship belong to them that use it. I mean I am referring to the Alteran ship when they left the home galaxy as from the Stargate: The Ark of Truth movies I see that the ship traveled like the same method as Destiny. Can someone clarify about this? In addition could the Stargate seeding ship also equipped with FTL engine instead of hypedrive seeing the Destiny were sent after the seeding ship. Hafiedz (talk) (Contribs) 10:16, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
- It's likely, but not known (until now)...
It's quite possible that the ship the Alterans used to leave their home galaxy was using FTL Drive technology (if this drive technology was really the first they developed). It's that or they used FTL Drive on Destiny because some of the ship's systems (like the in-range-gate detector - if we can call that way) would not work in hyperspace.200.20.228.46 23:52, July 5, 2010 (UTC)Leonardo
- If Destiny is possibly affiliated with the Alterans, then isn't there the possibility that the ship may not be Ancient at all? If the ship is older than we think, then what if it's Ori? We know the Ori language is pretty much the same as the Ancient language. No where on the ship does it say it was built by the ancients. They probably didn't even refer to themselves as Ancients. So how would Dr. Rush know it was built by the ancients. It's definitely someone who can speak Ancient. So only the Ori or Ancients could've built the ship. Now here me out, I noticed in a lot of other discussions about why the Destiny Stargate doesn't match up with the Milky Way stargate design in Amelius's notebook. Well, people assumed it was an oversight from the producers. However, maybe it's not. Maybe the Destiny Stargate is in fact an early model of an Ori stargate. Why the Ori would build and send out Destiny is beyond me. But perhaps it has something to do with Destiny's final destination. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 04:39, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
- It's an oversight from the producers (or undersight, as Universe wasn't planned at the time of the movie). You're going too far.—Supakillaii (talk) (Contribs) 05:02, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Yah it was just a thought. Although it would've been really interesting if Destiny really was built by the Ori. It would kind of make sense though seeing as how we've yet to see what the Ori stargates look like. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 15:59, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
- If Destiny was build by the Ori why does the Ancients stargates have 9 cheverons and how was the address foud in the Ancient database on Atlantis.
The Ori where against science that is why the Ancients had to hide there Technology.We don't know if the Ori made a Stargate Network we only know that they have at least one and that may have been build once they found out about the milky-way. Rush Knew it was build by the Ancients because of the design.—A scotsman (talk) (Contribs) 16:48, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Perhaps wherever Destiny is going, the Ori are also interested because it can greatly enhance their power. I think under such circumstances, they would make an exception. If the 9-chevron address was found in the Ancient Database on Atlantis, then that means the Ancients couldn't have forgotten about the Destiny. Atlantis must've been built long after the Destiny was sent out. Perhaps Destiny was some kind of collaborative project between the Ancients and the Ori. As far as we know, the Ancients and Ori ascended long after the Destiny was sent out. Obviously, the ancients and ori had contact again somehow. Otherwise, Merlin would not have thought the Ori as a threat shortly after he ascended. Perhaps for a short while, they worked together to build Destiny and send it out. And during that time, Merlin saw the Ori as a threat. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 18:43, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Except Destiny doesn't have a specific destination, neither do the Seeder Ships. —Supakillaii (talk) (Contribs) 19:08, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
- We don't know if Destiny has a specific destination or not. Acended beings cannot travel through time and Merlin was born millions of years after Destiny was lanched. They knew about each other because they where ascended and gained the knowledge of the universe. They may not have forgotten about Destiny just its purpose and they started researching ascension. A scotsman (talk) (Contribs) 19:29, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
Rescue Mission?
If hyperspace is faster than FTL, shouldn't the SGC or Homeworld Defense be able to send a rescue mission after them?
They have a record of the Destiny's flight path.
Tau'ri Battlecruisers can travel the 2 million lightyears between Earth and Atlantis in 18 days.
Granted at that speed it would take something like 24.6 years to catch up with them, but weren't the Asgard able to travel from Ida to Earth much faster? And don't the Tau'ri have those designs in their database somewhere?
Just a thought.
~Sjadojai 74.127.220.106 15:29, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
No and no :D
Even if Hyperdrive is faster than FTL (and there's no evidence to suggest it is), the Destiny has been traveling for thousands or millions of years and so it would still take forever to catch it up. The fact that a ZPM can power a wormhole to a Pegasus even with both hands and a foot tied behind it's back, but even at full power can't power a gate to the Destiny suggests that the distance is thousands of times greater than the distance between MW and Pegasus. Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 17:25, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
Given that Destiny is several billion light years away from Earth, the Earths fastest ship (Oddessy) would take years if not decades to reach Destiny. Considering Destiny has been in space for millions of years and that its only a few billion light years away she cannot be very fast at all even if she did drop out of FTL at every interesting planet. I estimate (Pure speculation) that Destiny can travel from anywhere between 300-12,000 times the speed of light at best. I base this on the fact that the Milky way gates are around 50 million years old at the oldest...now we know Destiny's gates are of an older design so assuming Destiny is about 55 Million years old....thats the sort of speeds that could be attained based on distance and time. As for the Asgard...yes they could reach Destiny easily...problem is that there are no Asgard High Council ships anymore that we know of. The Asgard could still travel between galaxies in minutes as of Season 9 as Kvasir turned up after Oddessy arived at P3Y 229 and Korolev was a matter of hours behind. Therefore if the Asgard dispatched a ship ASAP it obviosly did'nt take very long to get to P4Y 229 :)--Jnadreth (talk) (Contribs) 22:34, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
Asgard ships couldn't reach the destiny. You're assuming that the FTL drive is rubbish, but for all we know it's faster than the fastest hyperdrives. Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 23:30, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
How do you know the Asgard could not reach the Destiny? They got from Othala to Cimmeria in minutes!!! Their hyperdrives are clearly in the Billions xC as this wiki says about crossing galaxies in hours at the least...which as I have calculated based on a 4 hour trip across 3 million light years would be 6,574,500,000xC. I never assumed the FTL was rubbish....its millions of years old. If it was the fastest engine ever then why did it take millions of years to get were it is now a few billion light years away :P...Ha'taks take hundreds of years to get between galaxies :P Unless the series shows that Destiny can travel faster which it might do when in galactic voids between galaxies which I predict it might...thousand times light speed is the best it can do.
- FTL can't be faster then hyperdrive! Why? Atlantis and Aurora-class battleships have hyperdrive, if FTL is faster, why to use Hyperdrive! Vilnisr (talk) (Contribs) 18:17, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
The distace acording to Rush is "several Billions ly" so multiply by 18 days by 1000!!!! It would by 5 years There and 5 years back. AT VERY LEAST!!!!
Homeworld command does not have ships to spare... they are fighting Lucian Alliance. plus Wraith in Pegasus. 147.32.123.71 14:02, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
Really, really, really rough estimate
Using the facts found on this wiki we known only two things about the Destiny's speed.
- A) It was launched 50 million years ago.
- B) It has travelled several billion light years.
This is all we know, there is nothing more, so let us calculate/speculate.
- 1) What does "several" mean? Let's say 50. That way we get a nice 1:1000 ratio. (Officaly several means "a number more than two but not very many")
- 2) Distance between galaxies? let's say 5 million light years. Distance between Milky way and pegasus is 3 million light years. The distancw between Milky way and the Replicator galaxy (seen in Exodus) is 4 million light years. So 5 could be a rough avagare, considering that the distance between galaxies include the void and the galaxy itself.
- 3) If Destiny traveled 50 billion light years in 50 million years. Destiny's speed would be 1000 light years in 1 year.
Now let's take the same absurd interpitation that "several" means 50, and calculate a 304's speed.
- 1) 3 million light years takes 18 days, if everything is going smoothly. This means that 5 million light years takes 30 days. Multiply that by 10000 and you get 300000 days or 820 years. So 82 years in hyperspace gets you to Destiny, even if we add 4180 years of refueling, the Destiny would still be over 50 thousand times slower than a 304.
Something is realy wrong here.
- A) The distance, that Destiny has travelled has to be something between 3 and "not very many", so about 10. This irrefutable.
- B) It was launched much, much later than 50 million light years ago. This is wrong.
- C) The FTL drive broke very, very, very early. This is possible. --Uriel718 (talk) (Contribs) 15:51, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
Lets leave the speculations until we hear more about the drive's mechanism, speed & capabilities. Then we can start make some real speculations. --Railgun Out! 04:53, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
- they are real speculations. ASDF1239 DISCUSSION 23:43, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
Warp-Drive
As far as I can tell it seems to work like the warp-dive in startrek; a subspace field is projected around the ship which allows the ships sublight engines to project the vessel to faster than light speeds. Awar 11:12, March 22, 2010 (UTC)
- In coparrison the hyperdrive in stargate is more like the Transwarp drive in startrek. ~ Awar
- More like Quantum slipstream... Transwarp is to broad term in Star trek. 147.32.123.71 14:04, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
rescuing the destiny crew is impossible
guys, the destiny has been traveling for such a long time. i think the reason for using FTL is either because the stargate can be dialed into while it is flying so it knows when to stop.
or it was the best the ancients had at the time.
i think the hyperdrive is faster cuz all ships have them nowadays. also, the asgard could have been in the milky way galaxy the whole time. when they went to cimmera. and also, how do u know it only took a few hrs to get to the supergate? it could have been days. in fact, the ship might have been in the milky way the whole time.
thats y they only had one there.
it takes so much more energy to use the wormhole drive. if atlantis couldn't use the stargate to get to destiny, how is it supposed to use the wormhole drive?
- All it would take is the proper amount of power to reach Destiny. Atlantis, even running on its normal hyperdrive, could reach Destiny inside of three to six months, possibly less. The wormhole drive would be unnecessary, albeit faster. 76.246.19.248 02:08, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
The best (and to me) most obvious plan to get them back to earth is to use the ships solar power collectors in the corona-sphere of a sun and then using all that power (Exepet for that needed shields & life support) to power the stargate when dialing. This plan should work as it took a planet with a Naquadria-core to power the milkyway gate. The amount of energy expanded by our sun in a single second could power earth for a million years, Also the planet did not explode with anywhere near the power of even a supernova. ~ Awar 22:48, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
- They tried that. It would have blown up the ship. 76.246.19.248 22:55, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
- You do realize that ship can only pump some limited amount of energy to it´s Stargate using it´s badly damaged conduits. Certainly it does not have capacitor to store as much power as ZPM. (it stops fairly often to replenish it´s supply)Paeris (talk) (Contribs) 15:53, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
Of course the most logical thing is to return power capacity. They could end series with it. Also, they can use Icarus-like planet. Or black hole (black holes are so impossibly cool). I hope they will settle a colony in final episode, just to surprise the audience. --15:37, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
- With how ineffective the prototype gates are I doubt it could even connect that long regardless of power. Paeris (talk) (Contribs) 15:53, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, actually, Destiny's shields should be able to withstand the gravitational forces of a black hole long enough to dial the gate to Earth. A stargate just needs to be in close proximity to a black hole to dial another galaxy. This is what the Oddyseey did to dial the Milky Way from Pegasus. And the Stargate was still on the ship while it was being dialed. However, what confuses me is that if it's that simple, then why didn't they use a Black Hole to dial Destiny the first time? A ship-based command base is the perfect and most secure way to study the 9th chevron instead of Icarus Base. They could've used the Hammond and kept a Stargate aboard the Hammond. Then whenever they want to dial the 9th Chevron, they can just move the ship close to a Black Hole and dial. A Black Hole has an infinite amount of energy which is why it can maintain an intergalactic wormhole indefinitely. I'm sure a Black Hole could also maintain a wormhole between Destiny and Earth if needed. But yeah, if Icarus Base was on the Hammond, then if they came under attack, they could just simply escape by jumping into hyperspace.General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 03:47, December 2, 2010 (UTC)
Wormhole Drive
Not being stu[id but why doesn't Atlantis just go after them with their wormhole drive, they could get there in about 2 mins. Guessing it still has a few issue to work out, but McKay and Zelenka can work them out. :) --Donovan-j-charlie (talk) (Contribs) 09:00, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Just noticed that it's discussed above. :p --Donovan-j-charlie (talk) (Contribs) 09:02, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
How fast is the Destiny's FTL drive?
it takes a 304 4-18 days to fly 3 million light years. it took the Destiny several months to fly through one galaxy, dropping out every now and then to dial into a planet. —SupremeCommander (talk) (Contribs) 19:21, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
It's possible that it moves faster traveling between galaxies than through it as it moves in more or less a straight line with less matter in the void. Then again within a galaxy, it makes periodic stops (and the occasional refuel in a star). Vae Infectus (talk) (Contribs) 02:40, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
Number of Galaxies Visited
Hello, it seems to me so far from season one, that the Destiny will be roughly visiting one galaxy per year. If you apply that to the fact that the Destiny has been going for 50 million years.... that's about 50 million visited galaxies!! And that's disregarding the fact that the Destiny's slowed down over the ages. 50 million galaxies is far more than the 36 or so we saw on a star map in the season! I'm very confused about how the ship could be scything through galaxies so quickly as in the first season, yet seemingly having not accomplished much after 50 million years (an incredibly immense amount of time)! Has anyone any ideas on this? My only theory is that maybe the Destiny has travelled the huge gaps between clusters and superclusters of galaxies, which hence took potentially millions of years to cross each. 92.13.138.35 12:47, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
- It's probably fair to say that that mini-holomap we saw in Air wasn't a comprehensive guide to all of Dentiny's history. It may have only being beeping at superclusters or important points, or only have been the first part of a longer video. Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 20:58, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, speed wise we now know that Destiny is pretty slow. It takes ten months just to cross two galaxies. So all those beeps you heard on that star map probably were the exact number of galaxies Destiny has been to. Even the most basic Asgard hyperdrives can traverse two galaxies in less than 10 months. So obviously the FTL drive is very slow. It's probably only slightly faster than a Gould Hyperdrive. But compared to pretty much every intergalactic hyperdrive, the FTL drive is definitely the slowest. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 03:34, December 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Let's see. 10 months with often dropping out of FTL for supplies etc. That'd make it around 5-7 months without taking Supplies. Let's say 6. That's one year for four galaxies. For sixty million years, that's one hundred and twenty galaxies. Asgard Hyperdrive takes 18 days to go between two galaxies (that are fairly close to eachother to say the least), which makes it about 2160000000 days, or 5917808.2191780821917808219178082etc years for an Asgard Hyperdrive to get where Destiny is at the moment. Though my calculations could well be wrong, I did them in five minutes... —Supakillaii (talk) (Contribs) 23:13, December 3, 2010 (UTC)