Pre Hyperdrive? I think the Destiny's FTL Drive is pre hyperdrive. This because the ship was many million years ago. That would make it drive that uses something like tachyon imitation or subspace to travel that fast. What do you guess think?Railgun Out! (talk) (Contribs) 05:12, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

No, I don't think so --╔▲╠☼╚╡∩║▀⌠⅜⌡├┤∩ (talk) (Contribs) 07:12, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

I bet it is star trek-like warp drive. It probably has some advantages on hyperdrives, but has obvious disadvantage - if you don't know where you go you can just crush into sun, or planet, or black hole or something even worse --╔▲╠☼╚╡∩║▀⌠⅜⌡├┤∩ (talk) (Contribs) 21:06, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

I think the drive is used because sensors still work while it is active, which they dont in hyperspace Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 18:26, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

yet Edit

Hi, guys. We have argument about meaning of this qoute. Does "yet" mean just "but", or it means "not yet through hyperspace, becouse it's not so advanced"? --╔▲╠☼╚╡∩║▀⌠⅜⌡├┤∩ (talk) (Contribs) 17:39, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

The quote is "faster than light, yet not through hyperspace." In this context it means "but". Faster than light, but not through hyperspace. Cheers. MolocKal'el T | C - 19:13, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
I love how Stargate allways manages to get these epic lines in just the right place. I'm not sure if Epic is quite the word, but, you know, it makes it sound like supernatural in a way. It's like the feeling you get at the end of Lost City, Part 2 when all the drones and stuff are firing and O'neill goes into the sleeping chamber. Before I Sleep has lines like that as well. Allthough when you think back about when Rush said it, it is a little out of character to just stand there and say that, makes it sound as though he knew where the ninth chevron went in the first place and it was all part of his plan or something Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 21:11, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

FTL engine on other Alteran/Ancient ShipEdit

Hi guys, I had been wondering since the Ancients might use FTL engine before their invention of hyperdrive, is there any other ship belong to them that use it. I mean I am referring to the Alteran ship when they left the home galaxy as from the Stargate: The Ark of Truth movies I see that the ship traveled like the same method as Destiny. Can someone clarify about this? In addition could the Stargate seeding ship also equipped with FTL engine instead of hypedrive seeing the Destiny were sent after the seeding ship. Hafiedz (talk) (Contribs) 10:16, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

There's no way to know... Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 11:24, June 6, 2010 (UTC)
It's likely, but not known (until now)...

It's quite possible that the ship the Alterans used to leave their home galaxy was using FTL Drive technology (if this drive technology was really the first they developed). It's that or they used FTL Drive on Destiny because some of the ship's systems (like the in-range-gate detector - if we can call that way) would not work in hyperspace. 23:52, July 5, 2010 (UTC)Leonardo

If Destiny is possibly affiliated with the Alterans, then isn't there the possibility that the ship may not be Ancient at all? If the ship is older than we think, then what if it's Ori? We know the Ori language is pretty much the same as the Ancient language. No where on the ship does it say it was built by the ancients. They probably didn't even refer to themselves as Ancients. So how would Dr. Rush know it was built by the ancients. It's definitely someone who can speak Ancient. So only the Ori or Ancients could've built the ship. Now here me out, I noticed in a lot of other discussions about why the Destiny Stargate doesn't match up with the Milky Way stargate design in Amelius's notebook. Well, people assumed it was an oversight from the producers. However, maybe it's not. Maybe the Destiny Stargate is in fact an early model of an Ori stargate. Why the Ori would build and send out Destiny is beyond me. But perhaps it has something to do with Destiny's final destination. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 04:39, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
Either the drawing from the movie must be ignored, and this is an early version of a stargate, or the Alterans deliberately made more primitive versions of their stargates to limit the damage if they were captured by aliens. Or perhaps the Destiny stargate was planned to work with much higher power requirements than a standard stargate, requiring the Destiny's stargate's changes (the planet-side ones still being super primitive, not even being able to dial across a portion of a galaxy). BrentNewland (talk) (Contribs) 00:55, June 18, 2019 (UTC)
It's an oversight from the producers (or undersight, as Universe wasn't planned at the time of the movie). You're going too far.—Supakillaii (talk) (Contribs) 05:02, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
Yah it was just a thought. Although it would've been really interesting if Destiny really was built by the Ori. It would kind of make sense though seeing as how we've yet to see what the Ori stargates look like. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 15:59, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
If Destiny was build by the Ori why does the Ancients stargates have 9 cheverons and how was the address foud in the Ancient database on Atlantis.

The Ori where against science that is why the Ancients had to hide there Technology.We don't know if the Ori made a Stargate Network we only know that they have at least one and that may have been build once they found out about the milky-way. Rush Knew it was build by the Ancients because of the design.—A scotsman (talk) (Contribs) 16:48, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps wherever Destiny is going, the Ori are also interested because it can greatly enhance their power. I think under such circumstances, they would make an exception. If the 9-chevron address was found in the Ancient Database on Atlantis, then that means the Ancients couldn't have forgotten about the Destiny. Atlantis must've been built long after the Destiny was sent out. Perhaps Destiny was some kind of collaborative project between the Ancients and the Ori. As far as we know, the Ancients and Ori ascended long after the Destiny was sent out. Obviously, the ancients and ori had contact again somehow. Otherwise, Merlin would not have thought the Ori as a threat shortly after he ascended. Perhaps for a short while, they worked together to build Destiny and send it out. And during that time, Merlin saw the Ori as a threat. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 18:43, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
Except Destiny doesn't have a specific destination, neither do the Seeder Ships. —Supakillaii (talk) (Contribs) 19:08, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
We don't know if Destiny has a specific destination or not. Acended beings cannot travel through time and Merlin was born millions of years after Destiny was lanched. They knew about each other because they where ascended and gained the knowledge of the universe. They may not have forgotten about Destiny just its purpose and they started researching ascension. A scotsman (talk) (Contribs) 19:29, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
I think the key is that it is not hyperdrive tech. Hyperdrive means burrowing into subspace and travelling, the FTL drive of Destiny is on par with some of the most advanced hyperdrives in the galactic voids. Yet slower inside galaxies, I'm thinking this is easily explained by the need of the FTL vessel to plot a course around stuff. The ship needs to go around planets, stars, etc and it needs to be slow enough to plot the course as it moves through the galaxy. Just an idea 15:39, November 17, 2014 (UTC)

Rescue Mission? Edit

If hyperspace is faster than FTL, shouldn't the SGC or Homeworld Defense be able to send a rescue mission after them?

They have a record of the Destiny's flight path.

Tau'ri Battlecruisers can travel the 2 million lightyears between Earth and Atlantis in 18 days.

Granted at that speed it would take something like 24.6 years to catch up with them, but weren't the Asgard able to travel from Ida to Earth much faster? And don't the Tau'ri have those designs in their database somewhere?

Just a thought.

~Sjadojai 15:29, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

No and no :D

Even if Hyperdrive is faster than FTL (and there's no evidence to suggest it is), the Destiny has been traveling for thousands or millions of years and so it would still take forever to catch it up. The fact that a ZPM can power a wormhole to a Pegasus even with both hands and a foot tied behind it's back, but even at full power can't power a gate to the Destiny suggests that the distance is thousands of times greater than the distance between MW and Pegasus. Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 17:25, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Given that Destiny is several billion light years away from Earth, the Earths fastest ship (Oddessy) would take years if not decades to reach Destiny. Considering Destiny has been in space for millions of years and that its only a few billion light years away she cannot be very fast at all even if she did drop out of FTL at every interesting planet. I estimate (Pure speculation) that Destiny can travel from anywhere between 300-12,000 times the speed of light at best. I base this on the fact that the Milky way gates are around 50 million years old at the we know Destiny's gates are of an older design so assuming Destiny is about 55 Million years old....thats the sort of speeds that could be attained based on distance and time. As for the Asgard...yes they could reach Destiny easily...problem is that there are no Asgard High Council ships anymore that we know of. The Asgard could still travel between galaxies in minutes as of Season 9 as Kvasir turned up after Oddessy arived at P3Y 229 and Korolev was a matter of hours behind. Therefore if the Asgard dispatched a ship ASAP it obviosly did'nt take very long to get to P4Y 229 :)--Jnadreth (talk) (Contribs) 22:34, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Asgard ships couldn't reach the destiny. You're assuming that the FTL drive is rubbish, but for all we know it's faster than the fastest hyperdrives. Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 23:30, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

How do you know the Asgard could not reach the Destiny? They got from Othala to Cimmeria in minutes!!! Their hyperdrives are clearly in the Billions xC as this wiki says about crossing galaxies in hours at the least...which as I have calculated based on a 4 hour trip across 3 million light years would be 6,574,500,000xC. I never assumed the FTL was rubbish....its millions of years old. If it was the fastest engine ever then why did it take millions of years to get were it is now a few billion light years away :P...Ha'taks take hundreds of years to get between galaxies :P Unless the series shows that Destiny can travel faster which it might do when in galactic voids between galaxies which I predict it might...thousand times light speed is the best it can do.

FTL can't be faster then hyperdrive! Why? Atlantis and Aurora-class battleships have hyperdrive, if FTL is faster, why to use Hyperdrive! Vilnisr (talk) (Contribs) 18:17, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
We still don't know for certain though, so I'm just saying that it's a bit stupid to be making all these assumptions about how it would be easy to catch up with the ship when we don't know how fast the ship goes. Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 13:36, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
Excuse me, Vilnisr, but I'm daring to suggest that (maybe) Hyperdrive is easier, safer, more reliable and efficient than FTL drive, but requires more advanced technological level for its development than the FTL. SV5195R (talk) (Contribs) 20:03, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

The distace acording to Rush is "several Billions ly" so multiply by 18 days by 1000!!!! It would by 5 years There and 5 years back. AT VERY LEAST!!!!
Homeworld command does not have ships to spare... they are fighting Lucian Alliance. plus Wraith in Pegasus. 14:02, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

You guys are forgetting something very basic here: The Destiny is probably in excess of 75 Million years old. And that doesn't mean that it has just been collecting dust. It's systems have been completely active for all that time. The overally efficiency is appaling. So the FTL probably is much faster than hyperdrives, because as Rush pointed out, the Ancients devoted the entire resources of an entire galaxy to building this one ship, so its safe to assume that when it was new, it would be the fastest ship besides Atlantis with its wormhole drive.

We don't even know if FTL speed is constant. Think of it, they get from one galaxy to another in a few weeks, but take months to cross one. )Perhaps the more intense gravitational disturbances inside the galaxy limit the speed greatly.) Anyway, given the head start, and the intergalactic speed that is comparable to the Asgard hypersrives... They are way to far ahead. As for why they used FTL instead of Hypedrive, perhaps FTL still had an "average" speed somewhat higher than their current hyperdrives? Sensor capability and 9-cheveron adress dial-in are also likely explanations. Thomsons Gazelle (talk) (Contribs) 22:55, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

You guys, it doesn't matter how fast or how slow FTL is. We know that Destiny is currently several billion lightyears away. As for calculating the exact distance, that would require some people better at math than I. But it wouldn't be crazy to think that Eli or someone could figure it out. All you needed at that point is Asgard technology to cross the distance. Like I said, it doesn't matter how fast it's going. It only matters how far it's gone. If, at this very moment, it's 7 billion lightyears away, then calculate how long it would take an Asgard ship to travel 7 billion lightyears. That's how long the rescue ship needs, no more, no less. —IamTavEl (talk) (Contribs) 10:38, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Really, really, really rough estimate Edit

Using the facts found on this wiki we known only two things about the Destiny's speed.

A) It was launched 50 million years ago.
B) It has travelled several billion light years.

This is all we know, there is nothing more, so let us calculate/speculate.

1) What does "several" mean? Let's say 50. That way we get a nice 1:1000 ratio. (Officaly several means "a number more than two but not very many")
2) Distance between galaxies? let's say 5 million light years. Distance between Milky way and pegasus is 3 million light years. The distancw between Milky way and the Replicator galaxy (seen in Exodus) is 4 million light years. So 5 could be a rough avagare, considering that the distance between galaxies include the void and the galaxy itself.
3) If Destiny traveled 50 billion light years in 50 million years. Destiny's speed would be 1000 light years in 1 year.

Now let's take the same absurd interpitation that "several" means 50, and calculate a 304's speed.

1) 3 million light years takes 18 days, if everything is going smoothly. This means that 5 million light years takes 30 days. Multiply that by 10000 and you get 300000 days or 820 years. So 82 years in hyperspace gets you to Destiny, even if we add 4180 years of refueling, the Destiny would still be over 50 thousand times slower than a 304.

Something is realy wrong here.

A) The distance, that Destiny has travelled has to be something between 3 and "not very many", so about 10. This irrefutable.
B) It was launched much, much later than 50 million light years ago. This is wrong.
C) The FTL drive broke very, very, very early. This is possible. --Uriel718 (talk) (Contribs) 15:51, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Lets leave the speculations until we hear more about the drive's mechanism, speed & capabilities. Then we can start make some real speculations. --Railgun Out! 04:53, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

they are real speculations. ASDF1239 DISCUSSION 23:43, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Consider the fact that when they said "serveral billion light years", they didn't know much about the ship, or it's path. There's no guarantee it's at all accurate. We also don't know if the ship's speed is permanent. They do after all cross intergalactic distances at 304-speeds, but still need months to get across a single galaxy. But I agree, we know to little about both FTL and hyperdrive to speculate.

Warp-Drive Edit

As far as I can tell it seems to work like the warp-dive in startrek; a subspace field is projected around the ship which allows the ships sublight engines to project the vessel to faster than light speeds. Awar 11:12, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

  • In coparrison the hyperdrive in stargate is more like the Transwarp drive in startrek. ~ Awar
  1. More like Quantum slipstream... Transwarp is to broad term in Star trek. 14:04, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

rescuing the destiny crew is impossible Edit

guys, the destiny has been traveling for such a long time. i think the reason for using FTL is either because the stargate can be dialed into while it is flying so it knows when to stop.

or it was the best the ancients had at the time.

i think the hyperdrive is faster cuz all ships have them nowadays. also, the asgard could have been in the milky way galaxy the whole time. when they went to cimmera. and also, how do u know it only took a few hrs to get to the supergate? it could have been days. in fact, the ship might have been in the milky way the whole time.

thats y they only had one there.

it takes so much more energy to use the wormhole drive. if atlantis couldn't use the stargate to get to destiny, how is it supposed to use the wormhole drive?

All it would take is the proper amount of power to reach Destiny. Atlantis, even running on its normal hyperdrive, could reach Destiny inside of three to six months, possibly less. The wormhole drive would be unnecessary, albeit faster. 02:08, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

The best (and to me) most obvious plan to get them back to earth is to use the ships solar power collectors in the corona-sphere of a sun and then using all that power (Exepet for that needed shields & life support) to power the stargate when dialing. This plan should work as it took a planet with a Naquadria-core to power the milkyway gate. The amount of energy expanded by our sun in a single second could power earth for a million years, Also the planet did not explode with anywhere near the power of even a supernova. ~ Awar 22:48, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

They tried that. It would have blown up the ship. 22:55, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
You do realize that ship can only pump some limited amount of energy to it´s Stargate using it´s badly damaged conduits. Certainly it does not have capacitor to store as much power as ZPM. (it stops fairly often to replenish it´s supply)Paeris (talk) (Contribs) 15:53, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Of course the most logical thing is to return power capacity. They could end series with it. Also, they can use Icarus-like planet. Or black hole (black holes are so impossibly cool). I hope they will settle a colony in final episode, just to surprise the audience. --15:37, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

With how ineffective the prototype gates are I doubt it could even connect that long regardless of power. Paeris (talk) (Contribs) 15:53, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Well, actually, Destiny's shields should be able to withstand the gravitational forces of a black hole long enough to dial the gate to Earth. A stargate just needs to be in close proximity to a black hole to dial another galaxy. This is what the Oddyseey did to dial the Milky Way from Pegasus. And the Stargate was still on the ship while it was being dialed. However, what confuses me is that if it's that simple, then why didn't they use a Black Hole to dial Destiny the first time? A ship-based command base is the perfect and most secure way to study the 9th chevron instead of Icarus Base. They could've used the Hammond and kept a Stargate aboard the Hammond. Then whenever they want to dial the 9th Chevron, they can just move the ship close to a Black Hole and dial. A Black Hole has an infinite amount of energy which is why it can maintain an intergalactic wormhole indefinitely. I'm sure a Black Hole could also maintain a wormhole between Destiny and Earth if needed. But yeah, if Icarus Base was on the Hammond, then if they came under attack, they could just simply escape by jumping into hyperspace.General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 03:47, December 2, 2010 (UTC)
lol the person that said it would be cool if they settled on a new colony, you were dead on with your prediction one year ago. The Novus colony is pretty much what you predicted.General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 23:23, May 18, 2011 (UTC)
I doubt that Destiny-generation stargates posess the technology to extract power from a quantum singulatiry. They seem to be much less independant than newer Ancient gates in terms of having their own power generators etc.. Also, it's possible that there's a limit on how much power even a milky way gate can extract from a black hole - the gates internal extractors or whatever they are might just not be able to draw that much, in which case you would need a bigger device to extract and convert the energy into electricity for the gate. Unfortunatly, the Ancients seem to be the only race with the technology to extract power from black holes and other quantum singularities (like ZPMs). Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 14:58, May 20, 2011 (UTC)
Actually, humans of earth have been able to extract energy from subspace in an alternate reality. It was also pretty clear that McKay from our reality could've done the same cause he had all the notes about the subspace capacitor. So if we could build hundreds of subspace capacitors, we might be able to use them to dial Destiny. Also, I don't think the stargates physically extract energy from a black hole using extractors. I think it's a lot more complicated than that and I think the Destiny gates are capable of the same thing. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 18:55, May 20, 2011 (UTC)
I belive there has been a missunderstanding regarding the black hole power thing. All the black hole does is to flood the gate with it's extreme gravity field, making the energy flow through the gate enough to overcome the 38-minutes-limit. You still need another power source to establish the wormhole.LupoCani (talk) (Contribs) 22:14, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

Wormhole Drive Edit

Not being stu[id but why doesn't Atlantis just go after them with their wormhole drive, they could get there in about 2 mins. Guessing it still has a few issue to work out, but McKay and Zelenka can work them out. :) --Donovan-j-charlie (talk) (Contribs) 09:00, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Just noticed that it's discussed above. :p --Donovan-j-charlie (talk) (Contribs) 09:02, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

How fast is the Destiny's FTL drive? Edit

it takes a 304 4-18 days to fly 3 million light years. it took the Destiny several months to fly through one galaxy, dropping out every now and then to dial into a planet. —SupremeCommander (talk) (Contribs) 19:21, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

It's possible that it moves faster traveling between galaxies than through it as it moves in more or less a straight line with less matter in the void. Then again within a galaxy, it makes periodic stops (and the occasional refuel in a star). Vae Infectus (talk) (Contribs) 02:40, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, now that we've all seen Gauntlet, we know how fast the FTL Drive is. It takes Destiny about 3 years to cross a galaxy and move on to the next. The galaxy may be larger and the distance between the next galaxy may be longer, but not matter what, a BC-304, Ori Mothership, Atlantis, and Asgard ships would not take 3 years to do the same thing. In fact, 1 year is all it takes for an Ori Mothership to get from the Ori Home Galaxy to the Milky Way. That distance is several galaxies. Much farther than Ida or Pegasus. So based on this new information, we can assume that Destiny's FTL Drive is pretty slow compared to modern hyperdrives. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 04:36, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Number of Galaxies Visited Edit

Hello, it seems to me so far from season one, that the Destiny will be roughly visiting one galaxy per year. If you apply that to the fact that the Destiny has been going for 50 million years.... that's about 50 million visited galaxies!! And that's disregarding the fact that the Destiny's slowed down over the ages. 50 million galaxies is far more than the 36 or so we saw on a star map in the season! I'm very confused about how the ship could be scything through galaxies so quickly as in the first season, yet seemingly having not accomplished much after 50 million years (an incredibly immense amount of time)! Has anyone any ideas on this? My only theory is that maybe the Destiny has travelled the huge gaps between clusters and superclusters of galaxies, which hence took potentially millions of years to cross each. 12:47, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

It's probably fair to say that that mini-holomap we saw in Air wasn't a comprehensive guide to all of Dentiny's history. It may have only being beeping at superclusters or important points, or only have been the first part of a longer video. Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 20:58, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
Well, speed wise we now know that Destiny is pretty slow. It takes ten months just to cross two galaxies. So all those beeps you heard on that star map probably were the exact number of galaxies Destiny has been to. Even the most basic Asgard hyperdrives can traverse two galaxies in less than 10 months. So obviously the FTL drive is very slow. It's probably only slightly faster than a Gould Hyperdrive. But compared to pretty much every intergalactic hyperdrive, the FTL drive is definitely the slowest. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 03:34, December 2, 2010 (UTC)
Let's see. 10 months with often dropping out of FTL for supplies etc. That'd make it around 5-7 months without taking Supplies. Let's say 6. That's one year for four galaxies. For sixty million years, that's one hundred and twenty galaxies. Asgard Hyperdrive takes 18 days to go between two galaxies (that are fairly close to eachother to say the least), which makes it about 2160000000 days, or 5917808.2191780821917808219178082etc years for an Asgard Hyperdrive to get where Destiny is at the moment. Though my calculations could well be wrong, I did them in five minutes... —Supakillaii (talk) (Contribs) 23:13, December 3, 2010 (UTC)
Also, galaxies that were visited by Destiny could be different in size and class, ranging from dwarf galaxies and irregular galaxies like LMC to giant elliptical galaxies like M59 galaxy in the constellation Virgo. Because of probable large variety and number of galaxies (which is unknown) the Destiny visited before, and different distances between galaxies, we don't know average number of galaxies that Destiny visits during year, so we don't know exact number of galaxies visited by Destiny, and we can't calculate the exact FTL speed of Destiny and compare it with Hyperdrive's speed as well. SV5195R (talk) (Contribs) 09:17, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
We know that destiny traveled few million lighyears between galaxies in matter of months. Presumably inside galaxy it travels slowly. (FTL is gravity sensitive) as of episode 2x10 it was ten months since expedition came to destiny and vast majority of time was spent in galaxies rather than void. Asgard hyperdrive on Asgard warship would manage significantly grater distance (as it managed to traverse galaxy in minutes and void between them in hours)- Yes on tauri ships they are much much slower as they lack decent powergeneration and conduits are limited even when they had ZPMsPaeris (talk) (Contribs) 11:36, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
Just remembered something from end of first season of SG1- Tialc mentions that "usualy" goauld ships accelerate very differently and that hyperdrive is rather "new" technology. Is it possible that very since goauld used FTL drives they scavanged from Alteran technology and eventualy upgraded? Even that way goauld drives would be vastly inferior even to Destiny (Hundreth years as oposed to months Destiny would take from Ida to Milky way which it would take Cronos´s mothership when SG1 was thrown to hell by exploding star.)Paeris (talk) (Contribs) 11:45, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
And now again about the Destiny's course. General Heed, maybe the Destiny could cover slightly larger distances in the same time when it had seen its best days, because it didn't need stop for supplies and recharge thanks to being in better condition, having larger power capacity and moving unmanned. SV5195R (talk) (Contribs) 14:29, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Eli stated that Destiny travels a roughly straight line through a galaxy. That doesn't mean it travels a straight line between galaxies. It could be going around in circles for all we know. We don't know what the background radiation is or how Destiny examines it but we do know that going to galaxies is important. Otherwise, it would spend most of its time in the voids since it's only had a crew recently. It would be impossible to calculate how many galaxies Destiny has gone through just by measuring its distance from Earth "as the crow flies". Also, who says how long it takes to get through a given galaxy? The Destiny crew arrived in the middle of one, not at the beginning. And, it didn't get the chance to go through the entire second galaxy, remember? They circumvented part of it. Never do they tell us how long a full galactic trip generally takes. —IamTavEl (talk) (Contribs) 10:50, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Blueberry aliens and The drones using FTL Edit

It have been stated ON TWO separate occasions, both in Trial and Error and the latest episode Deliverance, that Blueberry aliens use HYPERDRIVE in their motherships instead of the FTL. Also in the Deliverance it is CLEARLLY stated that the drones use HPERSPACE to travel NOT FTL.

It's just an expression. Both the drones and the blueberries do not use hyperdrive, which has a very specific and recognizable effect as demonstrated in this very series. The drone FTL is taken wholesale from Destiny's version, just with a green tint. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 02:51, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
No, the blueberrys do use hyperdrives, watch the show before opening your mouth. In Deliverance they that they "detect hyperspace windows opening". Just watch the ep and listen. Jauh0 (talk) (Contribs) 13:28, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
The say the same thing of the drones, and they most definitely do not use hyperspace. Ergo, it's a generalization. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 15:54, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
Your visual interpetation IS NOT canon. Dialogue IS. Jauh0 (talk) (Contribs) 16:58, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
Dialogue has to be taken in context. They don't use hyperdrives. It's right there in the scene. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 18:47, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
I agree that it is just an expression. First of all there is no hyperspace window, beside Destiny don't have a hyperdrive (probably not developed yet) and it's unlikely that Destiny could recognize it. Vilnisr T | C - 19:21, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
So you'd bet a 100$ and say they don't have hyperdrives, even though they say so on several occasions? You really are stubborn. No hyperspace window that we can see, maybe it's lot smaller and opens later than the ones we have seen across the galaxy. The writers basically decide who has what, and they make the script, ie the dialogue, but they don't make the special effects. Jauh0 (talk) (Contribs) 13:32, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
Not making the special effects does not mean they have no control over the effects. Writers, directors, and so on outline how they want things to look. Then the VFX department works something up according to that. "Hyperspace" is being used as a general term, as an identifier of their specific drive system. Just like "off-world" is used even though they're in a spaceship. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 17:04, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
Look, I understand if they generalized FTL, which just means that something travels faster than light, but hyperspace is hyperspace, hyperspace is also ftl. And I dunno about you, but there are easier generalizations that "I'm detecting three hyperspace windows opening", like let's say "Three ships appeared". And wtf with "off-world and spaceship"? Off-world means they are not on that particular world, it does not say they have their feet on the ground. But screw this, you're too fanatic and stubborn to be swayed so I'm not going to even bother. Now I see why ppl say you are annoying. Jauh0 (talk) (Contribs) 19:30, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

FTL instead of hyperdrive for a reason? Edit

Think about this- Destiny spends.... 90%+ in FTL, but its goal is to collect data on the cosmic background radiation for a pattern. And we've seen that its affected by stars/planets, in faith. So... Wouldnt that mean it could still collect data inside FTL, because technically, its in the same dimension. And it wouldnt be able to pick up the cosmic background in hyperspace- dif dimension. Also, to the ppl whinging about comparitive speeds- the FTL drives seem to have a far faster straight line speed- but inside a galaxy they would have to dodge systems, unlike hyperdrive, which could go in a straight line. So comparitively, the FTL drive seems unique, because ut also seems to enable sub- space communications, helpful for the 9-chevron address, and receiving the navigation data. Id imagine every1 went hyperdrive because a 7 hour stop is 2 long, as well as needing the shields, and having to dodge whole systems. - Mick666.(accounts playing up) 11:29, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Well, it seems the FTL drive takes 3 years to travel through the galaxy and to the next galaxy. And in hyperspace, you can still have subspace communication. Plus, the sensors can still detect things in normal space.So really, FTL was no necessary. Now I don't know about the 9 -chevron address connecting but hyperdrive seems to be better. General Heed ([[User talk:General

Heed|talk]]) (Contribs) 17:25, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

First up- the bulk of the 3 years was inside the galaxy. The across would have been much shorter. And its less about sensing the normal dimension- and more about taking readings on the cosmic background radiation- a hyperdrive would meant that 90%+ pf the journey would have been usless because they cant get readings. More to the point- it would have been possible to use a hyperdrive- but wasnt this the age of the wormhole drive?... Mick 666 10:25, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Not true actually. Eli stated that it would take 3 years for a continuous jump through the galaxy and across the next one. That's about how long a Gould Hyperdrive would take. And also, I'm pretty sure you can still get normal space readings from hyperspace. In hyperspace, you're not completely immune from things in normal space. When the Prometheus flew threw a star in hyperspace, it caused their hyperdrive reactor to overload. Therefore, hyperspace is still affected by things in normal space. I think the only reason FTL was used on the Destiny is because the ancients didn't have hyperspace technology yet back then. As for the 9 chevron addess, i'm sure it could connect to a ship even if it's in hyperspace. The ship will still need to have some kind of protocol to drop out of hyperspace automatically to allow the wormhole to establish. I think the FTL drive was used by the writers because it doesn't seem so overpowered. You see, if Destiny had a hyperdrive instead, then they could simply jump to hyperspace instantly at the first sign of trouble. Thus making the drone invasion pointless and not casue their hyperdrive to burn out. Therefore, Stargate Universe's plot would not have been so dramatic if they had a hyperdrive. There were so many solutions to rescuing the crew of the Destiny. Using the most advanced Asgard hyperdrives powered by a ZPM could've gotten the Oddyssey to Destiny in just a couple weeks. The round trip would only be about a month. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 17:18, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Woah- Mate- round trip to do a several thousand year journey in a few months???!?!?!!? Destiny has been across THOUSANDS of galaxies!!!! No matter your FTL capabilty, thats still a mega long journey!!! And hyperspace is affected by GRAVITY, not matter. A gravity well can disrupt a hyperspace jump, causing it to overload/explode, whatever. But for Destiny, it has to dodge whole systems. not just stars. Mick666- 02:10, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

Just A Theory Edit

Maybe the FTL Drive had been invented after the hyperdrive ? But even though it was slower than hyperdrive maybe it was used in ancient probes or ship that needed to scan constantly or receive subspace signals such as the Destiny which needed to drop out of FTL when someone dialed into the ship's stargate and the reason we haven't seen FTL in any other places other than the Destiny is because no-one from earth has ever encountered that technology in the Pegasus Galaxy or the Milky Way.

catching up Edit

with the talk about catching up with destiny, one thing has not been concidered, destiny is going from galaxy to galaxy, which is not always a straight line in relation to the milky way, so the time destiny takes is longer, since galaxy's are not lined up like a nice line.

If earth was to send a rescue ship it would still take a long time granted, but the cource plotted would be more direct.

Getting there would require a more specialized ship, the 304 is simply not built for speed, due to the power source issues, but the asgard database should have some powersource designs that they could use. Food, oxygen, water is no issue the beaming tech can handle that. Also worth noting is that it took a lot less time to travel between pegasus and milky way when supplimented with a zpm (could also just suppliment with other powersources for extra speed, 2 or more subspace capacitors could probably be used to alternate between to keep speed going, with small pauses between so that there is no power spikes)

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