Going out with a bang, huh?Edit

So i have to admit, I haven't watched the preview yet. But based on the summary of the episode, it sounds like its going to be another "Let's sit here and talk about the slightest bit of plot" episode. I know I'm a bit harsh on SGU, but it seems like there is an unusually high amount of episodes were nothing happens. Even the episodes where things happen, they don't really do anything. I'm just picturing this episode. Destiny drops out over Novus. "Oh gee, looks like your planet's uninhabitable. Let's sit here and talk about generic plot details about the alternate crews lives and at the end of the episode Rush might make some comment about finding another planet with a stargate near by. And depending on whether or not the writers want to end the story arc or carry it on to the end, the Novus people will either agree to go there, they'll go there but that's where the blockade will happen, or they choose to stay on destiny. Yada yada yada insert Scott and Chloe scene. Insert Eli being a lonely old guy talking to Holo-Ginn. The end. Phoenix304 (talk) (Contribs) 18:28, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

And this ^ is why Stargate Universe has failed. People do not understand the art and beauty of literature and unfortunately, that is how SGU episodes are written. It's about the journey, not about having action every step of the way. It was a damn good episode. In 2,000 years, starships were built to travel to another world, amazing. But, now I think we have a good idea of why the command ships are so interested in Destiny. Based on the preview, the people on the other settlement, how they are more advanced than Ellie's settlement I don't know but the drones have wiped them out. It means the commandships know about everything on the destiny crew and what they need. The drones probably uploaded information saying Destiny needs a star to recharge. - supremecommander
I'm not trying to bash the shows artisticness. I understand and agree with people who see the beauty in the show, though I have some complaints about the execution of it. My main problem with the show is that it isn't Stargate. Actually, more like we had to lose Stargate to get it. Even David Hewlett has said that the show is beautifully done, but it wasn't made for the audience stargate had always attracted. And that is why it failed. A well written show with a compelling idea, yes. But unfortunately, it wasn't what stargate had always been and thus it failed to appeal to the fans, many of which felt betrayed. Plus the decision to cancel atlantis IN FAVOR of SGU gave many fans a bad opinion about it from the begininning. I can honestly say that greatly affected my opinion unfairly, as I was a huge stargate fan from the very beginning and loved every minute of it. Even when SG-1 got into the mediocre Ori phase.
But beautiful or not, I think my biggest problem with it wasn't that it wasn't all action. My problem was that it was rarely EVER action. Two seasons into the show and there have been what? 3-4 battles? In a series that was founded on military action. The main enemy of the show is more of an occassional plot point than anything. We don't even have a real name for them. Just the "blueberry aliens". I think the biggest thing that turned me away from the show was that there was almost no action at all, and every bit of action seemed to somehow undermine the stories of the previous 2 stargate series. I think that had it run alongside Atlantis and had a proper introduction (like atlantis recieved from SG-1) and perhaps had just a tinge more action, the show could have been seen for the artistic achievement that it was. Instead, they cancelled SGA, did a cold start directly into SGU with no backstory other than a single possibly unrelated line about the Odyssey, and went from a very action intense SGA season into two seasons of almost no action. And I think there are very few people out there who even now wouldn't trade all of destiny's crew to see AR-1 or ESPECIALLY SG-1 step through the gate again. It just didn't grab people the way the last two had. Phoenix304 (talk) (Contribs) 03:52, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

Would be an awesome finaleEdit

The episodes, mostly thanks to Epilogue were fitting enough to be the series finale, it's well made plot actually managed to bring me both sadness and happiness, great makeup in the Epilogue and a terrific ending scene contribute for the last few episodes to be something to remember. Novus planet, novus and fresh story! 23:54, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

I feel kinda bad for downing the episode now. I generally don't like the series but that was a nice episode. And I agree, that would have been a good finale.Phoenix304 (talk) (Contribs) 01:58, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

The Journey Quote Edit

A strange coincidence about Camile Wray's ending line "Our mission is and always will be, the journey itself" -Camile Wray compared to this..... "maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey" -[1] Harry Kim Well, I suppose that the scriptwriting crew ran out of triumphant ideas for ending lines so the basically "borrowed" the main idea of one from another known TV show about a ship stranded at the edge of of civilization. Somewhat sad, but then again, it was a good quote, so I guess the writers know the best of who to steal from.-- 18:21, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Well, the line by Wray was definitely well written in my opinion and once again would have been nice in a finale. And I think you may have just realized why. kinda already was used for that. SGU has always felt done before to me. Its premise has always been similar to the Voyager and BSG. However, for once I'll defend SGU. I think that that doesn't matter. There really are only so many ideas you can come up with in a particular field, and its not as though stargate hasn't had very similar moments to other series before. The 302 fight against Anubis's mothership is proof of that. The whole Novus idea itself isn't new either. The think I've always liked about gate is that even when an idea did not originally belong to the writers, they always had a way to make it new and their own. And honestly, better. And while I may have been opposed to SGU through its entire run, I think this episode brought back that stargate kind of feel for me finally. It took an idea we had already seen before(actually 2, that line and the whole Novus idea) and managed to make a beautifully written story out of it. I think if SGU could have done stories like this and maintained the exploration/sci-fi action, then people may not have been opposed to it. Plus, I've said before, had it been introduced via Atlantis like Atlantis did for SG-1, and had Atlantis been allowed to run its course alongside it, it really could have blossomed. The little interactions between SG-1 and Atlantis were a new and unique idea that I genuinelly liked, and I think that Universe especially could have benefitted from it. Think about the communication stones. If they had interacted with the SG-1/Atlantis crew, and we saw what was happenning on the Milky Way-Pegasus side, they could have built quite the beautiful tapestry that the first 2 had started. Phoenix304 (talk) (Contribs) 18:43, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Would've been awesomeEdit

Eli was such a major founder in the society. Education, principles of recording everything, etc. I was surprised the writers didn't have a scene where they found his iPod in a museum and he kept it as a momento. Just so many little elements the could have done. Skipped the Hunt and made this arc with people and planet a 3 or 4 parter. -- 21:03, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

My issue with the episode, is that since they know what planet the Novus ships were headed to, and they know that the ships left Novus no later than 30 years before, why couldn't Eli, Rush, and the others calculate where to drop Destiny out of FTL to catch up with them. Destiny could ferry the people to the new Novus colony, say in exchange for a copy of the Tenaran archive, and parts from one of the ships. Destiny has FTL, the Novus ships don't, so catching up to them should be easy (kind of like when Carter & Dr. Lee used the Apollo to find Atlantis, back in the day), espicially since Destiny got a lot of supplies from the Novus bunker cache. Jgard89 (talk) (Contribs) 02:23, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
Huh....that's a...really good point. Lol Phoenix304 (talk) (Contribs) 03:02, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
Why do people seem to think it would be so simple? Look, it isn't as easy as just calculating where the ship is from when it is launched. They would need to know the exact date they were launched, course corrections in orbit, course corrections after that, and relative speed. There's a reason Eli dismisses it: it can't be done, not in any timely fashion. Finding Atlantis was unrealistic and aided by the fact that they were out of control and couldn't make course corrections. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 03:54, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
...ALSO a really good point!! Lol man I have no opinion of my own today! Phoenix304 (talk) (Contribs) 09:10, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Also, what's the point? I they hardly can take them aboard or help them any other way, for that matter. They will be fine, why not let them just fly around? --Глючарина (talk) (Contribs) 09:30, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Pro argument: Destiny has long range sensors so they could be able to pick an row of ships one after another by symply droping somewhere from where they think they are. Against: Destiny's sensors aren't probably like the ones on Apollo as advanced and they must stay at least 4 hours in FTL + that the people on the evacuation ship could be in stasis so I will call this very hard to impossible in Destiny. Portalier (talk) (Contribs) 13:50, September 13, 2012 (UTC)

I truly appreciated this episode. Edit

This is the episode which I truly liked, and it's a real shame that they didn't extended this storyline futher. Or even slowly begin the show which it. MysticalNut 14:50 August 2 2013

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