Time Travel!!![]
That has to be what happened to Destiny's crew when they dialed the 9 chevron to Earth while in a star. They must've been sent back in time by 2000 years and the descendents formed a new human colony probably now more advanced than Earth ironically. Still, I don't think the Destiny expedition has enough people to re-populate the human race. 100 people is simply not enough genetic diversity to be able to start a new colony and sustain it for 2 thousad years. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 01:44, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
- Writers suck at genetics :) --Глючарина (talk) (Contribs) 10:13, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, writers slept in biology class, but this is a interesting idea. Can't wait. Jauh0 (talk) (Contribs) 13:41, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
- Unless there was some inter-species breeding... If perhaps they were to meet an alien species that we could interbreed with, then that would definitely provide enough genetic diversity. But I'm guessing they're just regular humans that are 2,000 years more advanced than Earth is right now. And technically, since these people have lived on a different planet billions of light years from Earth for thousands of years, they could be considered the 3rd evolution of the Ancients. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 19:12, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
- The Hebredians or something like, in the episode Space Race, interbreeded with those aliens all the time. Perhaps the other Destiny Expedition got friendly with the Blueberry aliens. But I think it's likely there was no interbreeding. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 22:26, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
- I saw something similar to this from a mile away you know with the stargates+solar flares=time travel. They just didn't end up on earth. Or that they are actualy decendents of the Ancients (unlickly).HyperIon (talk) (Contribs) 21:57, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, they should've seen the solar flares coming. But I'm surpised it didn't send them to Earth. Normally you either get sent back to your same stargate in a different time, or you do make it to the destination, but in a different time. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 22:12, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
- Well I think that you are all thinking about monogamous reproduction but if they would have done crossbreeding under each other so lets say "One women gets three kids from three different man" (Trekkie's now what I mean) than that would produce a wide enough diversity in the genetic pool to create a genetically stable population. Without mixing with aliens which is highly unlikely that it would work for example we Humans can't crossbreed with Chimpanzees even that we share 99.98% of the same DNA. On the other side it's just a TV-show sow we shouldn't get sow hang up on the genetics but of course I now that discusing about such thinks is half of the fun we get from watching it Anubissan (talk) (Contribs) 14:43, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
- 2000 years of INCEST!!! I guess that those guys were the decendent of every person who was on Novus and had kids. About genetics I think i heard somewhere that a population over 150+ people could be stable over time but they would suffer alot of genetic diseases and syndromes.Portalier (talk) (Contribs) 17:38, September 11, 2012 (UTC)
How would the civilization have advanced without meeting aliens?[]
I just don't see it being possible. Let's say 80 people went back in time. The have no knowledge about building houses, hyperdrives, communication devices, searching for minerals in the ground. It's ridiculous, many of them are soldiers. How would 2000 years allow for so much advancement from nothing?
Look back 2000 years: Back then we were living in s**t and ate s**t for breakfast lunch and dinner. I think it's safe to say that a group with some grasp of modern science can advance pretty far in 2 millenia, assuming that they avoid stalls like the Middle-Ages. Jauh0 (talk) (Contribs) 08:53, April 10, 2011 (UTC)
- Dark Ages were not so much stagnation, more like fall of Roman Empire was a giant leap back, which took centuries to recover from --Глючарина (talk) (Contribs) 11:38, April 10, 2011 (UTC)
- Standing still and going around in a circle both lead you to the same point. Jauh0 (talk) (Contribs) 16:40, April 10, 2011 (UTC)
- I just watched the episode and I must say, Novus is pretty advanced. I'm not exactly sure how much more advanced, but based on the architecture of the city and their computer technology as shown in the preview for the next episode, I'd say they're probably several hundred years ahead of us. They're probably on par with the Tollans in terms of technology. After all, Novus did have a 2,000 year head start. That 2,000 years being offset by maybe 1,000 years of having to rebuild an entire civilization from just 80 people. It's interesting that they've stayed true to Earth society after 2,000 years and I find it funny how Rush is considered the devil by some of their people. They even have nuclear weapons. While I am impressed by Novus, I am kind of dissapointed that after 2,000 years they're not as advanced as I thought. By advanced I mean on par with the Ancients. If you remember, in the alternate Earth, in 2010, Earth was extremely advanced thanks to help by the Aschen. I also noticed that Novus dosn't seem like it has any space ships. They rely on stargates to travel to other planets. No hyperdrive? No Novus version of the 304? Then again, the 304 was only possible thanks to the Asgard. Anyways, Novus seems pretty cool. Can't wait till the next episode to find out what happened. 98.114.236.245 02:17, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
- Who knows, maybe they evacuated the planet on ships as that city is abandonded and the Stargate destroyed or disabled.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) (Contribs) 02:22, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
- But that would mean that within 30 years they built enough ships to evacuate their whole planet. Or perhaps this will be something like that episode where Dr. Jackson got like 12 people downloaded into his brain from that civilization that evacuated from their planet in ships. The though of seeing a more advanced version of the BC-304 excites me, but I know it won't happen because it would eliminate the need for Destiny. I am fairly positive that a 304 such as the Oddyssey is much more advanced than Destiny. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 02:35, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
- They never said they had no ships, just that they used the Stargate. Also, they may have evauated before the supervolcano eruption or whatever took out their Stargate to one of the other colonies they were setting up.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) (Contribs) 02:49, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
- That's true. But there's not much evidence that they're a full fledged space faring civilization yet. If they were advanced enough to be capable of intersteller travel, they'd probably have set up many colonies all across the galaxy by now (Alpha sites) in which case they would've encountered the drones awhile ago. Or here's a crazy thought. What if it was Novus that created the Drones? Perhaps the Ursini discovered the humans on Novus and they didn't get along. So Novus built the drones to fight the Ursini. But then the drones rebelled and wiped out the people on Novus. The drones seem to recognize the Stargate as something important. That may also explain the Ursini were distrustful of the Destiny crew because they look just like the people on Novus. Oh and I just noticed something, I saw something on the History Channel before saying that most people on Earth are descended from a small group of people because most of our population was wiped out by a super volcano. If that's true, then I guess the Destiny Expedition setting up a new colony and repopulating is possible. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 02:58, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
- 80 people over 2,0000 years.. jeez, it's incredible that the writers brought them to the level shown and some of you expect them to have 304s? I hope they are simply on the other side of the planet or something, they could be the lifeline Destiny so desperately needs. 108.5.35.144 03:51, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
- Well, after about 1,000 years they were pretty well settled with a pretty modern civilization. So it's not too much to expect 304's from them. After all, they've reached the point where they are more advanced than Earth. So they should have some form of intersteller travel besides the Stargates. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 04:09, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
- It is too much to expect 304 from them, because 304 is reverse-engineered alien technology. Novus have nothing to reverse-engineer except Kino. --Глючарина (talk) (Contribs) 06:29, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
- They have various scientists, and Eli, who have had their lives learning physics, about alien technology and all the advances of humans. That would have given them a head start. Not having outdated religions like old-style crusades christianity, just "Rush is the devil/god" religion, and whatever beliefs they brought with them. So there's no reason to believe they went into any sort of dark age. They are likely more advanced than the Tau'ri. You are quite right that they wouldn't be at the level that Homeworld Command is at though. But they'd certainly be further along than we are in real life. Supertrinko (talk) (Contribs) 06:39, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
- Scientific progress is not a game of civilization, and it does not take preset number of years to develop something new. It vastly dependent on resources, motivation and just good old dumb luck. Maybe Eli and others were scientists but without heavy industry you won't build a rocket engine and without rocket engine you have no application for your rocket science. And without application, discipline will be forgotten by your grandchildren because your children won't have any reason to teach them and even if they do they won't be able to check out if they were correct. Of course they will have head start knowing that planet is round and rotates around the sun, but that's pretty much all they can save and not lose in transmitting between first generations. --Глючарина (talk) (Contribs) 06:50, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
- I believe they (Destiny Expedition) could have filmed some information on Kino and teach later generation as well. After few decades/centuries industry would achieve necessary level and knowledge could be used then. —TakeruDavis (talk) (Contribs) 13:32, April 25, 2011 (UTC)
- Scientific progress is not a game of civilization, and it does not take preset number of years to develop something new. It vastly dependent on resources, motivation and just good old dumb luck. Maybe Eli and others were scientists but without heavy industry you won't build a rocket engine and without rocket engine you have no application for your rocket science. And without application, discipline will be forgotten by your grandchildren because your children won't have any reason to teach them and even if they do they won't be able to check out if they were correct. Of course they will have head start knowing that planet is round and rotates around the sun, but that's pretty much all they can save and not lose in transmitting between first generations. --Глючарина (talk) (Contribs) 06:50, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
- They have various scientists, and Eli, who have had their lives learning physics, about alien technology and all the advances of humans. That would have given them a head start. Not having outdated religions like old-style crusades christianity, just "Rush is the devil/god" religion, and whatever beliefs they brought with them. So there's no reason to believe they went into any sort of dark age. They are likely more advanced than the Tau'ri. You are quite right that they wouldn't be at the level that Homeworld Command is at though. But they'd certainly be further along than we are in real life. Supertrinko (talk) (Contribs) 06:39, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
- It is too much to expect 304 from them, because 304 is reverse-engineered alien technology. Novus have nothing to reverse-engineer except Kino. --Глючарина (talk) (Contribs) 06:29, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
It may be that these people do have space faring technologies, yet by destiny standards, it would take a week to get from one planet to another, they may not be as advanced as destiny. We haven't been able to compare destiny to other ships. I was delighted to know that humans had spread to other galaxies, you can imagine my ecstasy to see they'd spawned billions of light years away. Supertrinko (talk) (Contribs) 06:22, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
Well, we do have rough estimates of how fast Destiny is. It's pretty clear that the 304's and most new Ancient ships are much faster than Destiny. Compared to a Gould Mothership, I'd say Destiny is pretty close in speed. Now of course, Destiny's FTL Drives are very old and don't operate anywhere near 100% efficiency anymore. So the potential of Destiny's speed could be greater. 98.114.236.245 19:01, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
Deep Space 9[]
This seems oddly similar to an episode Enterprise's "E squared" and an episode of DS9.173.58.145.118 06:01, April 16, 2011 (UTC)
- Memory-alpha don't have entry for "E squared", you may be misspoken. Anyway "Lost colony" idea was everywhere in Sci-Fi since the beginning. --Глючарина (talk) (Contribs) 12:03, April 16, 2011 (UTC)
- He didn't mistype - he just didn't write it "E²" as it was written on Memory Alpha. I created some redirects there anyway to avoid future confusion :) It's the episode where they find a second enterprise, run by a crew of their descendants, created after an impulse drive malfunction sent the originals back in time a few hundred years. Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 12:23, April 16, 2011 (UTC)
Rush as the Devil/God[]
I think the people who think Rush is the Devil got it right. Their desciription definitly sounded like him. The thing about him being God and not telling him about it was pretty funny too though.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) (Contribs) 13:46, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
I understand why people worship him I don't understand why they would consider him an devil?!Portalier (talk) (Contribs) 18:05, September 11, 2012 (UTC)
Rush and the stargates[]
My first order of business is about Dr. Rush. What is wrong with his character? One day he is chipper and I feel a change in his character. In this episode, he is very rude and back to his usual self. His development was erased...
Secondly, what the hell is wrong with the writers? One shot destroyed the stargate, well the other stargates go through so much more and remain intact.
- Well, in Awakening it is shown, that first-generation stargates are made of minimum 3 parts, and as shown in this episodes, drone hit the gate somewhere on the junction of two parts... So it might be a matter of construction... Divine Stas (talk) (Contribs) 12:28, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, and dont forget, despite being inferior to MW-gates it is thiner. normally technology gets smaller the more its advanced (compare the first computers that were large as a house to the modern notebooks for example) my theory is, that the MW and later gates circuits are indeed smaller, the extra mass comes from a massive naquadah-case that makes the gate nearly indestructable, so it can only be destroyed by nuclear explosions or stronger forces. Destiny style gates have a lower naquadah-content, so they are easier to manufacture but not that strong. (also, some of the gates technology is not in the gate itself, but in the ramp. The gate lacks the dhd so the power-source is probably located here along with the motors for gate motions and a unspecified number of other features)--SG-27 (talk) (Contribs) 18:50, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
Purple fruit.[]
So what is it good for? 67.194.69.49 12:11, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
- Birth control! LOL!!!--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) (Contribs) 12:49, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
- birth control? really? what are you? an idiot?
- It's a JOKE dumbass!!!--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) (Contribs) 13:01, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
- The fruit was clearly banana shaped.
- It was my initial thought that the fruit is good for masterbating. Why else would they be blushing.
- birth control? really? what are you? an idiot?
- Well I personally was going for ether anticonception or make-up. I mean they are on this ship for a year, I'm pretty sure everyobdy screwed everyoby by now. (89.25.150.207 17:34, May 25, 2015 (UTC))