is the bilkirnir calasiefed a ship in a official source
- It's given this name in several issues of The DVD Collection magazines, which is also where the statistics come from. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 10:36, 8 June 2007 (UTC
then why is it called a cruiser on the asgard fleet page and a asgard mothership on gateworld
- Neither of those are canon sources, as they are not official sites. The ship is, however, also called an Asgard Mothership or Mother Ship in other sources. It's never refered to as a cruiser in any official source to my knowledge. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 11:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
The spelling doesn't match how it's pronounced in the show though.
Is it Beliskner or Biliskner?? Supakillaii (talk) (Contribs) 19:49, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
- It's the Bilskirnir-class, though the individual ship was called the Biliskner. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 21:47, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
Subtle Differences[]
I have noticed a few slight differences between some of the Beliskner Class ships we have seen. In the Episode Revelations-Thors ship had a different engine design to the previously seen ships as well as much thicker wings. On the previous ships the eingines were in between the wings as the curved round the ship....on the Revelations version the wings go all the way round the back of the ship in a flattened semi-circle shape with the engines below the wings. This suggests that this ship is either newer or older than the others. Now this could just be a re-think of the ship by TPTB but it could be an older ship. This could be the reason why his ship was destroyed. I myself think the Beliskner is an Exploration ship...it doesnt seem to be a warship in any sense but powerful enough to defend itself..hence why the Oniell is such a big design shift towards a warship with the Jacksons to cover the Science aspect of the Asgard Fleet. —Jnadreth (talk) (Contribs) 02:30, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
Power[]
According to Thor, each engine output 1 billion kilojoules, someone seems to think that was KJ/ms, I'm not debating that, they may have a source which completed his sentence, but onscreen evidence, showed that each engine produced 1 billion killojoules over an unkown timeframe, but were equal. One engine does not appear on the diagram, someone is guessing that it is in fact smaller, or based that on a judgement of the size of the front end of the ship not shown on the diagram, however, I'm not debating that. I debate, that in fact, each produced the same amount of Energy, since their are 4, that makes for 4 billion Kilojoules per whatever timeframe.74.129.75.153 01:14, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
- There is reference tags after everything you mention in the infobox. If you click them then you will find where the information comes from. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 01:16, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
- I thought onscreen evidence was considered to be the way to go when there are contradictions, and the onscreen evidence is Thor's voice, where he says. "the belskirner is powered by 4 neutrino ion generators. In your earth units of measurement, each engine outputs a maximum of One billion Kilojoulles-" Which is him stating that they all output the same energy. I found a little picture. http://jaymach.com/Temp/Asgard%20Mothership%20000.jpg This is only marginally different, and does not really contradict what I am saying, it doesnt specify the fourth, which Thor does onscreen. Why might it be smaller, well, perhaps it cannot run as long as the other and is more of an emergency generator, or perhaps its tougher to make and they only have one, perhaps its a backup, but Thor says each produces the same energy.74.129.75.153 01:37, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
- Although it sounds like alot, 4 billion kilojoules is not alot of output for a ship like the Biliskner. Not even a kiloton of explosive force. I personaly think the writers bombed it with this. The energy production of a Biliskner should be alot higher, measured in petajoules at least, not kilojoules. Gormagon (talk) (Contribs) 18:13, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
Fuel[]
Both the Bilskirnir and Daniel Jackson Classes' fuel is listed as "Neutronium", what is the source for this? It just seems unlikely to me that a metal would be used as a fuel. Especially when we know they are "powered" by Nutrino-Ion Generators, which would suggest a gas or liquid fuel. Indeed the O'Niell Class was powered by Nahquadria which, in its refined form was probably liquid (like the refined Naquadah used for power/fuel). Looq (talk) (Contribs) 22:18, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
The generators most likly turned the neutronium into gas(most likly using a method that requires low amouts of energy) because ionisation can only take place when the substances is a gas. Naquadah isn't always a liquid when used for power generation, e.g. the Naquadah generators. A scotsman (talk) (Contribs) 22:40, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
Does it actually state anywhere that the nahguadah in the generators is solid or liquid? I just assumed its liquid because thats the only form (that I can recall) which it is explicitly seen to be generatoring power (Jaffa Weapons and the Power Booster Device). All soild forms tend to get called "weapons grade" which I just assumed was used to aplify explosions, but, that said, I guess it must be something like plutonium which is a soild fuel which can also be used in weapons in that form. Looq (talk) (Contribs) 16:32, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, the fuel for the Neutrino-ion generator is either naquadriah or the neutrinos from a protostar. No idea why the page says neutronium; feel free to remove it. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 23:11, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
- On the neutrinos page it says that the asgard get the neutrinos from the neutronium so this page is correct but i do not oppose a change. A scotsman (talk) (Contribs) 23:41, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
- The neutrino page is also incorrect then. We do not use other wiki pages as source material. It's always possible for pages on this wiki to be incorrect if not properly sourced. If it's not removed from all the above pages in a little while then I'll do it myself. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 00:49, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Indeed the Neutrino Generator page states that the the fule source before Naquadria was unknown, but a book states it was Nutrinos from a Protostar (makes sense), and that the use of neutronium as a fuel was never anything more than a fan assumption (which makes no sense to me from what we know of Neutronium and the Neutrino Ion Generators). I would propose a change to either "Neutrinos" or "Unknown" and the removal of the "from neutronium" phrase on the neutrino page. Looq (talk) (Contribs) 16:32, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
- I have made the changes I have suggested. However, after looking over the various Asgard Technology articles, nearly all of them suggest Nutronium as a fule/power source. There is just ZERO evidence to support this. I know "nuetrino" and "neutronium" sound similar, but that doesn't mean that they are the same. Neutronium is actually a throretical material made of "neutrons" (as opposed to protons) which may be found inside neutron stars, and has, in fact, nothing to do with neutrinos (although I conseed that Stargate Neutronium doesn't appear to be the same). I know that Thor states that Asgard Technology is "dependant" on neutronium, but that does not mean that it is as a fule. It could be because its a super-conductor of some sort, or because it is extremely stong, and the strength is nessacery for their powerful devices (like the rail-guns are probably dependant on tritium) or a limitless number of other things. This guess is been splattered all over this wiki as fact (as most don't say "possibly neutronium" it just states "neutronium" as if it is definative). Looq (talk) (Contribs) 23:19, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
- Indeed the Neutrino Generator page states that the the fule source before Naquadria was unknown, but a book states it was Nutrinos from a Protostar (makes sense), and that the use of neutronium as a fuel was never anything more than a fan assumption (which makes no sense to me from what we know of Neutronium and the Neutrino Ion Generators). I would propose a change to either "Neutrinos" or "Unknown" and the removal of the "from neutronium" phrase on the neutrino page. Looq (talk) (Contribs) 16:32, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
- The neutrino page is also incorrect then. We do not use other wiki pages as source material. It's always possible for pages on this wiki to be incorrect if not properly sourced. If it's not removed from all the above pages in a little while then I'll do it myself. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 00:49, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
- On the neutrinos page it says that the asgard get the neutrinos from the neutronium so this page is correct but i do not oppose a change. A scotsman (talk) (Contribs) 23:41, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
Bilskirnir[]
Erm, Bilskirnir class?
Beliskner*