This totally has to do with Franklin. Hes gonna come out of his Mind-Body Separation and then resume helping on Destiny.--Justin Kane (talk) (Contribs) 23:15, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

It's possible that his body couldn't handle the process of controlling the Destiny so he downloaded and sent his conciousness over to the Stargate Seeder ships via subspace link. Since the Seeder Ships are capable of producing many stargates, it's possible there are other technologies on board. Perhaps the ships have the capability to produce a new body for Franklin. Or perhaps we will see some kind of ancient, ancient version of the replicators. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 00:16, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Plot Edit

Either the Destiny will become FULLY operational, or the Expedition is going to find an alien empire/armada in some stasis like state, wake them all up, and the Aliens will be pissed at Destiny. It would explain the high cost. The thousands of Aliens waking up in statis. Their ships, their weapons, and countless other technologies. Mr White (talk) (Contribs) 23:46, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

OR it may be something simple like a sleeping virus or an awakening in a more social sense--Escyos (talk) (Contribs) 00:40, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

Well obviously something "wakes up". Perhaps it starts a new arc that leads up to the big battle in Resurgence.CourtneyFANno.1 00:20, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

I just watched the preview for it and it seems like there's some kind of alien on board the ship. But it doesn't seem like it's advanced. More of a pest-like alien. Didn't see anything about the power source yet, but I have seen how the Stargates are manufactured. It's pretty much like an assembly line. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 02:19, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Power Source Edit

The plot summary indicates that the Stargate Seeder ships have a power source that's equivalent to that of an Icarus Planet. How is that possible? ZPM's are the pinnacle of Ancient Technology in terms of power sources. Project Arcturus is probably the only thing that's better than a ZPM but it's unstable and uncontrollable. The plot summary implies that the Ancients had a power source that's somewhat portable yet way beyond a ZPM several million years ago. I don't think that's possible unless it's some kind of lost technology of the ancients. But even so, such a technology could never be lost and forgotten by the ancients. Whatever is on that Stargate Seeding Ship, I highly doubt it's a real power source. Perhaps Dr. Rush just made it up. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 03:41, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Or maybe the ship just has a massive reactor that can pump out equivalent power levels. Just because a ZPM has incredible power for its size does not mean something larger couldn't output the same amount of power. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 07:00, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
But we're talking about Icarus Planet energy levels. The ships aren't planet sized and proabably aren't larger than Atlantis. Therefore, the power source would still have to be somewhat compact. And a power source like that would still never be forgotten by the ancients. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 19:00, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
Unless it's inefficient and/or dangerous. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 20:12, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
Well clearly it's not inefficient and/or dangerous if it's been active on that ship for millions of years. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 23:10, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
It could pump out massive amounts of radiation that's harmful to humans when the thing is active. Dangerous but not unstable. Point is, you need to stop overthinking it. It's a plot device. They'll excuse it somehow. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 00:31, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

I can actually predict how this episode is going to end. I think it's going to have something to do with those aliens on board the seeder ship. It's going to turn out that they need that power source to survive and using it to dial Earth would kill them. Therefore, they decide to let the aliens keep the power source. That's how it always happens. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 00:20, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like Home. :P Byakuya Truelight (talk) (Contribs) 18:50, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps a more important similarity would be with Voyager when they refuse to use the caretaker's array to return home - in favour of saving another race. Afterwards you get the Maquis (Lucian Allience) stirring up trouble as they disagree with the decision. And as for what sort of power source it is, why can't it be better than a ZPM? We still burn fossil fuels because it's more convenient, not because it's the best method. Maybe the Ancients just thought that ZPMs were more suitable for city-ships and that this other power source was better for intergalactic Stargate-seeding ships. Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 22:59, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
Well, I just watched the episode, and I must say I'm kind of dissapointed with the result. Everything happened too conveniently. I think the power source would've worked and dialed back to Earth. But that would've been too easy. Those aliens had to suddenly become evil and reverse the power flow. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 02:30, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
I Don't know that they became evil. Take it from their perspective, they're investigating the ship, suddenly some larger ship docks, and aliens invade, next thing, they're stealing all the energy of the ship. I don't know that this is the case, but we shouldn't jump to conclusions. I also get the sense that it was purposeful (by the shows creators) that Telford found himself in the same situation as the alien, alone in a room with some intimidating creatures that may want to hurt him. Supertrinko (talk) (Contribs) 08:55, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

I believe the power source was still solar power. I assume it was just stored inside the ship because it's capacitors weren't damaged as much as Destinys' were. They were doing a direct to the gate transfer..too bad the aliens reversed it. I wonder why...maybe they wanted the Destiny because that ship could actually fly...but then again we don't know what was wrong with the seeder ship. —SupremeCommander (talk) (Contribs) 03:50, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, the power source of the Seed ships is the same as Destiny, Stars. It just is in better shape. —Supakillaii (talk) (Contribs) 13:25, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Lucian Alliance CaptivesEdit

Did they leave the lucian alliance people on the planet in the previous episode, or will they playa part in this one as well? 04:44, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

The Alliance captives all returned to Destiny. They're locked in a room. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 06:59, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

But then Some of them get sent to a planet and others like Ginn and Varro stay.CourtneyFANno.1 02:26, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

The aliens in the trailer for this episode look really wierd like some noctural plant-bug hybrids.CourtneyFANno.1 02:26, October 7, 2010 (UTC)


okay i just saw the episode, and as a none native english speaker i didn't caught what the aliens where or what they where doing on the ship... can someone explain please :)

Rush speculated that they are a research expedition, sent to explore the seed ship. MolocKal'el T | C - 05:17, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Why disconnect?Edit

You'd think that from the bridge of the ship, Rush could have re-reversed the power flow himself instead of disconnecting. I mean, the aliens could do the same from their control room. Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 20:54, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

He disconnected on purpose. He saw the situation as an oppurtunity to protect his "dream" which was to reach Destiny's destination. He was reluctant to tell anybody or help them with the power transfer at first. In fact, he didn't tell anybody about the energy readings from the ship at all. He let them find out for themselves. I still would've liked to see them dial Earth again though. General Heed (talk) (Contribs) 21:03, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
The power flow was controlled from the seed ship, not Destiny. Rush couldn't reverse it from his end. He could only break the link. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 23:20, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
Nothing would be controlled entirely from the seed ship... Destiny would be able to cut the power from its end easily - I'd be surprised if the power cables in the docking port couldn't be turned off. Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 18:21, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
If he could reverse the flow using the bridge controls, he'd likely have done it instead of stranding Telford. Gloria would also have made an issue of it, aside from merely questioning his motivation. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 18:24, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
if he had the power to reverse the power flow which he might have had it would mean losing destiny and even if he stayed he would be alone and have no help which he needed so cutting off from the seeder ship meant that destiny wouldnt be left stranded and he wouldnt lose the crew he needed it was win win (since if he did reverse the power flow everyone would insist that it be used to power the stargate)
Something that I hate about sci-fi is when you get unbelievable things like that - that Destiny couldn't shut off the power flow from its end. There're a million and one ways that the writers could have created the same overall outcome without that one little bit which makes the episode painful to watch :D Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 23:01, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Is Rush truely all that bad? Edit

He is merely desperate to carry out his dream....don't we all have dreams? We all want them brought to fruition. Maybe his dream will help everyone. —SupremeCommander (talk) (Contribs) 03:46, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

I think there are several scenes throughout the series, like the deleted scenes from Air, and the end of his dream in Human, that show that Rush isn't a bad person. He's just... single-minded. And like others mentioned above, there are interpretations of Awakening that don't require Rush to have undocked for bad reasons. If the energy transfer could only be controlled from the Seeder Ship, then his only option was to undock, or be stranded with no power. YardsGreens (talk) (Contribs) 10:32, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Gloria asked Rush if he undocked to save the crew or to save his dream. That question tells me that Rush had no choice but to undock but it does bring in the question of whether or not he's willing to find ways to get back to Earth. I mean if Earth found a way to get to the Destiny, Rush might actually try to find a way to get to Earth but if it's a one-way trip then no. Remember Atlantis? They knew it might be a one way trip but they needed to know. Those people were willing to risk it. The people who were originally going to board Destiny would have been taking the same chance but now they know there is little hope of getting to Earth. Once the crew leaves, it's over. Rush knows he can't stay on Destiny himself. He needs people on the ship to help with repairs and to cook. He needs people to go to planets and search for food. —SupremeCommander (talk) (Contribs) 20:16, October 16, 2010 (UTC)


Even though Telford was surrounded by the aliens at the end, we don't see him killed. Even though they could have killed Rush and Dunning, they simply stunned them. Does anybody else get the feeling or have any info that this isn't the last of Telford and the aliens? I can imagine a story arc originating here, with Telford being captured and a future episode revolving around rescuing him. - Uzerzero (talk) (Contribs) 03:41, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it's not the end for them. —Supakillaii (talk) (Contribs) 09:28, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
How you know that they will be back in the future? Is there any reference about their future appearance cause I cant even find any? - Hafiedz
imdb has him listed as appearing in episodes "Cloverdale" and "Seizure". imdb is notoriously inaccurate with these kind of things, but given the ambiguous nature of this episode I'd say that Telford will be back. --D Toccs (talk) (Contribs) 10:44, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
I have to agree. If the writers intended to have killed him off, they would have shown him dying, or at least being shot. We'll see him and the seed ship again. Whether the seed ship catches up to Destiny, or Young & Brody discover the bridge and turn Destiny around, or even if the "course adjustments" mentioned in Pathogen take Destiny back to the seed ship, we'll see them again. YardsGreens (talk) (Contribs) 20:46, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

From where is the 'Awakening Outtake' ? Portalier (talk) (Contribs) 14:34, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

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