Talk:Asgard plasma beam weapon

Who ever said that these weapons were plasma weapons? Asgard forever 23:01, 9 February 2008 (UTC)Asgard forever, February 9, 18:01

Doctor Rodney McKay said it in Be All My Sins Remember'd when he was stating how bad "Plan B" was. Jaymach 03:20, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, I wrote the article after hearing the line but if you need more confirmation then I believe Gateworld has a transcript of the episode on its website. DarthBatrus 11:29, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I'll take your word for it.

Just want to say that these weapons are awesome. Imagine what would have happened to the Ori if the Asgard hadn't died...User:Phoenix304 19:50, 9-8-08

The Ori would get there ass kicked.

The Ori already got their ass kicked. The only thing left to do was take care of their followers...and Adria. —AscendedAlteran 09:28, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey! Do you guys know what the people on GateWorld call these weapons...Uber Beams! LOL...User:Phoenix304

Power

how much power do we think it would take to super heat this plasma.

Lots reletive to real earth technology (probably ridiculous amounts), but presumably not a lot reletive to other stargate technologies as you dont need a ZPM to use them. Sman789 14:11, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Not to mention the fact that Earth has naquadah generators. The real problem with plasma weapons though is containing the plasma, which would take far more power than superheating it.—AscendedAlteran 17:11, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

They probably just use the Asgard core and beam transporters to replicate new plasma rather than store it.-Ascended 999 21:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm not talking about containment in that sense. I'm talking about keeping the plasma in a cohesive stream once its discharged towards a target. —AscendedAlteran 01:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

(lack of) originality

FreeSpace 2 Beam Turrets, anyone? -->Suicidal Tendencie File:Suicidal Tendencie Sig.jpg 17:39, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Lol, can you think of a better idea for a weapon that they could have used instead of normal pulse weapons?

What about tweaking the beam weapons to fire constantly?--Amitakartok 19:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

That would just melt the weapons Sman789 20:18, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

attack the wraith

with these ridiculously overpowered weapons why don't the tau'ri just go and actively hunt the hive ships and blow them up in a few shots —Asdf1239 ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 06:19, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly. If all 5 active Tau'ri ships went on a joint campaign and used guerrilla tactics (much like the Phoenix)... everything would be great. And... Odyssey with its ZPM could definitely do some damage. —Anubis 10545 ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 06:22, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but as I know that you know (Anubis10545), and perhaps most of the people here (I hope), that Odyssey is currently un-available. Would you like to contact the Daedalus for now? —Supakillaii ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 06:45, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

what an epic cliffhanger, they leave the fate of the odyssey a complete blank at the end of the entire show —Asdf1239 ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 07:15, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

... well, not really. Odyssey was just occupied with another matter. It doesn't seems like a cliffhanger, it just seems like a day in the life of a starship. —Anubis 10545 ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 07:24, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

they couldve said that its just somewhere else instead of throwing in a top secret mission that isnt going to be elaborated upon...until the atlantis movie, -if- its going to happen —Asdf1239 ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 07:30, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

The Odyssey was busy carrying people to Icarus Base at the time of the ZPM Powered Hive Ship issue and didn't have enough time to get to Earth. --Donovan-j-charlie ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 11:01, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

wasnt that the george hammond not the odyssey ASDF1239 ^DISCUSSION 11:42, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Differant mission. Jauh0 ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 01:30, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

uhh

"..., they require an extended period of time and significant power to charge. The advantage of plasma beam weapons lies in their ability to come online and charge at an incredibly rapid rate (using up relatively little power in the process) and deliver several consecutive shots in only a few seconds"
does anyone else see a problem with this excerpt? ASDF1239 ^DISCUSSION 09:18, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

No, but you're more than welcome to enlighten me... :D Sman789 ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 20:06, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

well, it contradicts itself in the next sentence...extended power of time and significant power to charge...come online and charge at an incredibly rapid rate using little power in the process? sounds like clever joke to me... ASDF1239 ^DISCUSSION 23:14, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

which is it people? fast-charging and power efficient or slow charging and power-guzzling? we need to decide. i'm surprised this hasn't been called out as "vandalism" yet. ASDF1239 ^DISCUSSION 01:59, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Didnt it used to say something to the extent of, it can be charged relatively quickly using little energy, delivering a less powerful shot, or take its time to charge using a lot more energy, to deliver a much stronger shot, relative to the amount of energy/time used/taken, while it does reach a maximum charge, and require at least a certain amount of time/power to get a minimum charge? I would also guess the components can only transfer a certain amount of energy, so a ZPM really cant make it far more powerful.74.129.75.153 03:19, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

i don't recall seeing anything like that happen what episode is it in ASDF1239 ^DISCUSSION 03:48, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

No, I beleive that is generally what the Wiki used to say, that it could fire in several different modes, a more rapid fire mode, and a longer charging mode, for more damage, but someone edited the wiki, and now it makes no sense.74.129.75.153 08:16, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it came from the Jaymachs Crazy DVD magazines which override the show when it comes to canon sources of information,74.129.75.153 08:17, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

be careful what you say about those things you don't want to be banned ASDF1239 ^DISCUSSION 08:20, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

aha theyre referring to the lantean satellite weapon when they say it takes a long time to charge. ima edit it for clarification, false alarm sorry for making a small ruckus out of it ASDF1239 ^DISCUSSION 08:22, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

hahah, it's taken out of context. the first part of the blurb is talking about the Ori beam weapon. The second part is talking about asgard plasma beam weapons. Plasma beams are quick to charge and fire rapidly. ori beams don't. ori beams are pure energy I believe. —SupremeCommander ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 22:27, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

no, as i said earlier, it's about the lantean beam weapon. ASDF1239 ^DISCUSSION 02:58, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

I think that the Lantean beam weapon has more raw power in it, and the Asgard beam is more about disruption or pirceing of shield modulations not the amount of energy in it. Tau'ri ships do not have the powerplants for rapid firing of a raw power based weapon well keeping the shields up and powering other systems.The Asgard would have known that. They may have designed it specifically for Ancient/Ori shield modulations and by extension Goa'uld shields. Who knows how effective it would be against Nakai shields, Serrakin shields ect. I do believe they would have effect on other shield types however. They could be just as effective against other shield types as they are against Ori shields. Then again, maby not. I do not suppose we will ever find out. I wonder if a Z-pm could make the Asgard beam even more uber. Gormagon ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 13:33, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, here is how a friend of mine thinks the beam could work-His Framework explains it as being a semi-continuous stream of a highly energetic Kiron field, which is also set to a frequency and phase common for Ancient and by extension Ori shields. The APBW itself is not uberpowerful, but it's just right for easily kicking Ancient shield technology, and thus Ori and by extension Goauld technology. it's a more advanced version of the tech they used against the Goauld, and a similar technology to the Tollan Ion Cannons.

Hope this is helpfull.Gormagon ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 20:17, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

You only have visual evidence of a computer generated effect in a a fictional television series. Isn't there anything more important to think about? Jauh0 ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 05:52, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Its more important then your most recent contrib to the page. ;-)

Gormagon ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 18:04, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

orly? Facts and evidence to the table, please. You've got 24 hours. Look at this picture I made in class, shall we analyze it's contents and assume it's real? Jauh0 ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 12:55, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

We know that Kirons are cannon in Stargate, they are mentioned in the episode Small Victories. An energy particle. Meaning, it can be used as a weapon discharge. The Asgard obviously knew about them, meaning they could probably develope Kiron technology.

Two, the Asgard knew that the pulse type weapons used by Goa'uld and Asgard had minimal effect on Ori shields because of the battle at the Chappa'ko. They knew how important it was to develope an effective means of fighting them, so we can assume they developed the weapon to be used specifically against Ori and perhaps Ancient shields, meaning they would have had the weapons operating frequncies adjusted to be as effective as possible on Ori/Ancient shield frequncies. They could have had an idea of those frequncies by analizing the part of the Ancient data base they had AND by scanning Ori shields with there advanced sensors. So the the beam was invented.

Three, the beam effected and eventually pierced Ori shielding, as seen in Unending. But if it was just a raw power weapon, Tau'ri ships would not be able to fire them as fast as we have seen them fired, I.E when destroying Asuran ships and Wraith ships. Which further supports the frequency theory. Frequencies for shields and weapons are used in Stargate, as seen in Stargate universe.

Gormagon ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 14:22, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

And pull the Grumpy Bug out of your posterior.Gormagon ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 14:23, September 1, 2011 (UTC)