Why do they name a ship after a god? Isn't Apollo a Goa'uld? Iaselar 17:34, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

To the best of my knowledge, he isn't a Goa'uld. Although personally Apollo is my least favorite ship name.—Anubis 10545 17:46, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

First of all, YES Apollo was a Gou'uld. He appeared...well, sort of, in the episode It's Good to Be King. O'Neill took out his Ha'tak (and presumably him) by firing one drone from the time jumper they found their. User:Phoenix304

And I agree about the name of the Apollo. I hate it almost as much as I hate the commander. User:Phoenix304

I hate Ellis too.

LOOK AT THE ARTICLE It's Good to Be King, it clearly says the Goa'uld in the Ha'tak is Ares.—Anubis 10545 02:05, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

i reckon that he is a Goa'uld how ever there is over two thousand years of history of system lords fighting and such. i reckon he had died during this period. —DeadReanimation 20:01, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Goof point. I also just rewatched the episode. The names sound a little similar. But that was definitely Ares. Oh by the way did anyone notice that the Apollo hasn't made an appearence in quite a while.

Yes, but like I say a little further down the page I have a theory on that.

I prefer the Daedalus any way but.. Where is the Apollo? With the Odyssey and possibly the Phoenix stationed in the milky way, what could the Apollo need to be doing. User:Phoenix304

I know. I mean, they could at least mention it.—Anubis 10545 05:47, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
I've got a theory about that: it's a bit of a trend I've noticed in the show that makes me think it may be something that's done on purpose. Did you notice what type of episodes the Apollo has appeared in??? Replicator episodes: First Strike, Adrift, Lifeline, Be All My Sins Remembered and Outsider. It has appeared in NO Wraith episodes. I think they bring in each ship to deal with a specific threat only, with a few exceptions: the Prometheus for the Goa'uld, the Daedalus for the Wraith, the Odyssey for the Ori, the Korelev for the Russians, the Apollo for the Replicators and the Phoenix for Michael. The Prometheus appeared in only a few Ori episodes (and only a few episodes overall) and they destroyed it to replace it with the more powerful Odyssey for the Ori arc. The Daedalus was sent to deal with the Wraith instead of sending the Prometheus once that was repaired and the Daedalus has appeared mostly in episodes dealing with just the Wraith with the exceptions being Be All My Sins Remembered where it helped with the Replicators, the Apollo was brought in (following the trend that I've noticed) to deal with the Replicators and once they were destroyed, was replaced once again with the Daedalus since the main enemy is once again the Wraith. Note the episode immediatly after Outsiders, Midway, was a Wraith episode and they switched to using the Daedalus again. Note that it only appeared again after the Asurans were to destroyed to deal with that Replicator on Earth. I think I read somewhere that the Apollo initaly was supposed to be the ship stolen by Todd, but they changed their mind and made it the Daedalus (probably due once again, to it being the Wraith they were dealing with, at least partaily). I think thus that the Apollo is now protecting Earth along with the Odyssey and the Daedalus has once again become the only ship to serve Atlantis. It's the only thing I can think of. Also the Phoenix isn't finished yet: it was sometime in the future that it was finished and I doubt that its done yet so it probably doesn't have a role yet. What I'd really like to see is a ship stationed at Atlantis permanantly like the Odyssey is at Earth. I'd like it to be the Daedalus, with the Apollo making supply runs so that it'd be in the show in some way again. It would be nice to have at least one ship around at all times on the show like the Odyssey was always on hand in the last couple seasons of SG-1. An ironic fact: when the Apollo first appeared on the show I thought it would end up replacing the Daedalus. Oh and the Apollo was mentioned once this season: Teyla mentioned it as they approached the alternate Daedalus, suggesting that the ship was possibly "the Apollo or one of the other ships."
In an SG1 episode, they said it takes nine months to fully complete a 304. Each season is roughly a year and the last 304 (Apollo) was introduced at the end of season three. We are now nearing the end of Season 5. So, we should have 2 more 304's by now with a third new one almost halfway through completion. And the Apollo arrived in First Strike, and was in Lifeline, and Adrift because it was the Apollo that attacked the Asurans to begin with. Because it was a three part episode, it would have been strange to all of a sudden bring in another ship to deal with the problem the Apollo originally caused. It was in Be All My Sins Remember'd along with Daedalus because one ship (that being Daedalus) wouldn't have been enough to deal with the Asurans. And keep in mind, since the last episode in season 3 (when the Apollo arrived in Pegasus), there haven't been really any large Daedalus vs. Wraith battles that the Apollo could have been in instead. So it's not so much that the Apollo only is suppose to deal with the Asurans as much as it is that there just haven't been a lot of opportunities for it to be in the show. Although you do have a good point saying that the Odyssey and Apollo are assigned to Earth and Daedalus and Phoenix are assigned to Atlantis. However, Apollo is part of the Second Tactical Wing, possibly meaning that it is assigned to Pegasus. Although I have no idea where the name or idea of the "Second Tactile Wing" came from, or if it actually exists as part of the show, although there is an article about it...—Anubis 10545 00:28, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Yeah but at the time of First Strike, the main enemy was the Replicators and the only times a ship appeared in that season was No Man's Land, Misbegotten (minor appearence), Sateda (very minor appearence), both parts of The Return (again, minor appearences no more than a scene or two each), Echoes (cool, but again minor role) and First Strike. Besides No Man's Land there weren't any space battles (by the way: that battle is one of my favorites) for the ships to fight in!!! The Apollo's only real battle has been the Battle of Asuras and it hasn't really done any fighting besides that. It did fight in Lifeline, but I don't really consider that a battle or the little strikes against the Asuran ships. After the Asurans were destroyed it was completly replaced by the Daedalus with the Apollo only being mentioned in passing once since Outsiders. Ironicaly I was worried that the Apollo was gonna replace the Daedalus, but that's not happening. When they mentioned a ship making a trip to Atlantis this season, its always been the Daedalus not the Apollo. I find it interesting that they brought that ship in around the time that the Replicators were an enemy, but once the Replicators were eliminated as a threat, made the ship not appear any more except to deal with another Replicator threat. Its an interesting point about the amount of 304's that should be made (I never saw where they said that so could you tell me which episode that is so I can check it out in the transcripts???), but those ships are never acounted for so unless the Phoenix is there but just hasn't been mentioned yet (which I supose is possible as its been at least 6 months since The Seed) but they did say that show would eventually be featured in the series again (of course that was before the show got canceled so maybe that was something for season 6) so who knows. So if the writers just don't really have a use for that ship anymore, why haven't they writen it in sometimes instea of just the Daedalus all the time???
To add to my response above, I would love for the Apollo to open up on a Hive ship and destroy the heck out of it. There's always hope for Enemy at the Gate and the [[Stargate Atlantis movie.—Anubis 10545 00:40, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Wow! Those were big responces. And I agree with BOTH of you. What I want to happen before the end of the series is for the Daedalus, Odyssey, Apollo, Phoenix, and whatever other 304's we may or may not have, to just blow the hell out of the Wraith as a whole. User:Phoenix304

Yeah and I wonder why the Odyssey wasn't brought in to fight the Replicators??? They needed as many ships as they could get, yet they left one behind. It wasn't like they had the Ori to worry about anymore.

Construction timeEdit

To answer WarGrowlmon18's (unsigned) comment about what episode where they said the time it took to complete a 304, I could not for the life of me find it. It is most likely in season 9, but it could be in season 10. I will continue to look through transcripts to find it, because now I want to know where I heard it too. However, in Crusade, Danial says: "I thought the next Daedalus class ship wasn't due out of the pipeline for over a year". Obviously that contradicts the 9 months as was said before, so I really don't know what to believe. But in either time frame, we should have had 2 more 304's completed by now.—Anubis 10545 03:15, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Materials could be the holdup on building another 304. Oberoth20 (talk) (Contribs) 23:18, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

Remnants Edit

In Remnants they said it was the Apollo (which is the first time its been more than mentioned in passing since Outcast), but McKay said that it was the Daedalus they'd get to transport that pod. Now which was it??? The Apollo or the Daedalus??? My guess is the actor misspoke since they used the Daedalus so much this season. Considering the Apollo hasn't seemed to have traveled to Atlantis since the events of First Strike, Adrift and Lifeline, maybe it came due to the Daedalus still needing repairs from the events of First Contact and The Lost Tribe.

At the very end, Mckay or someone says, "Apollo, ready to beam"... or something like that.—Anubis 10545 07:16, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
That's why I think it was an error by the actor saying it was the Daedalus earlier.

New Design? Edit

is it jsut me or do the apollo and the odyssey have different designs? look at them both and at the 302 bays. the one of odyssey is more bigger, height wise while the apollo's is more bigger depth wise. so i'd say the apollo can carry more 302's..—SupremeCommander 19:27, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

The bays are likely the same size. It's probably just the angles that the ships are shown from. Only in the image of the Odyssey over Earth does the 302 bay look taller.—Anubis 10545 02:03, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
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