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There was a bit of confusion regarding the situation surrounding Armstrong's death. The airlock door on the '''''Destiny''''' is the one that is stuck half closed and they are not able to repair or close fully. The door to the shuttle, for some reason, only remains closed if someone is inside the shuttle. They tried propping the door open to let the person back out, but the door won't stay closed unless someone is in there (it acted like elevator doors). I'm surprised they didn't try taping a pencil to a Kino to fly it in there and press the button. It strikes me as a strange safety protocol that the shuttle needs someone inside to keep the door closed. Cheers. —[[User:Ka&#39;lel|Ka&#39;lel]] <sup>([[User talk:Ka&#39;lel|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Ka&#39;lel|Contribs]])</sup> 20:30, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
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There was a bit of confusion regarding the situation surrounding Armstrong's death. The airlock door on the '''''Destiny''''' is the one that is stuck half closed and they are not able to repair or close fully. The door to the shuttle, for some reason, only remains closed if someone is inside the shuttle. They tried propping the door open to let the person back out, but the door won't stay closed unless someone is in there (it acted like elevator doors). I'm surprised they didn't try taping a pencil to a Kino to fly it in there and press the button. It strikes me as a strange safety protocol that the shuttle needs someone inside to keep the door closed. Cheers. —[[User:Ka&#39;lel|Ka&#39;lel]] <sup>([[User talk:Ka&#39;lel|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Ka&#39;lel|Contribs]])</sup> 20:30, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
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:They probably would figure this out, but, you know, rmstrong had a gun --[[User:Глючарина|╔▲╠☼╚╡∩║⌠⅜⌡├┤∩]] <sup>([[User talk:Глючарина|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Глючарина|Contribs]])</sup> 20:51, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
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:Probably the Kino+Pencil do not work, because it`s a safety protocol designed to prevent the shuttle became inaccesible while docked with Destiny. The shuttle need the presence of a human-like body inside of it to operate (maybe the weight on the chair, maybe the correct form/body_heat... who knows?).
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:The senator already has a "death sentence" when he reach Destiny: the "internal bleeding" + "lightblood pills" means dead by loss of blood; the "heart condition" - "lightblood pills" means dead by cardiac arrest (or something worst)... Not mention the (out-universe fact), that his actor was a "red shirt" guest star, that means his role was designed for a heroic-dead_plot-start for the Cloe`s caracter; he need to die saving everyone, (and soon) in the series.
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:[In the final episode] they try to remote-control one empty shuttle from the Destiny`s bridge (they do not even know Destiny has one in that time), and it was an special operation that need the "full access" from the MasterCode^TM, something they do not figured how to crack yet. [[User:Argamis|Argamis]] <sup>([[User talk:Argamis|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Argamis|Contribs]])</sup> 09:00, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
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[[File:DS.png|thumb|left|Not an Ancient Shuttle]]
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Saving/linking the image here so it doesn't get lost and can be linked to the proper page when we find out what it is. It could be an Ancient Shuttle, but it is certainly not of the same design we saw in Air Parts 1 & 2. This shuttle has five windows: One center, rectangular; four others, circular. The Ancient shuttle has three rectangular windows. The shape is also different, as is the colour of its engine exhaust and its shielding appears to be different as well. Also, it was attached to the hull and had no visible access point to the inside of ''Destiny''. It certainly wasn't connected to an airlock. Cheers. {{User:Ka'lel/sig}} - 04:27, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
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I didnt get the picture from the episode, it was from a Sky 1 interview show thing so I didn't see the full thing about it launching from an airlock or not, just it flying away from the Destiny. I just assumed it must be a shuttle of some sort, never mind though :D [[User:Sman789|Sman789]] <sup>([[User talk:Sman789|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Sman789|Contribs]])</sup> 18:30, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
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I see. That sucks then because they gave away the final scene (though it doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the episode). It was still a nice little cliffhanger that makes me want to see next week's episode. On another note, I like that Sky1's logo is in the top left, as Syfy (and SPACE) are in the bottom right. It makes it easier for me to brush the logo out of complex, static images when I can combine the clean area from another image. Cheers. {{User:Ka'lel/sig}} - 05:10, October 10, 2009 (UTC)
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I just watched the episode and the first thing that went through my mind as it detached from Destiny is that it was a stargate. I think Destiny is seeding stargates just like the other ships that came before it, and this little ship is how it does it. If you look at it closely, it appears that the ship is a bubble and engine attached to/wrapped around a gate (the gate lies horizontal, so the engine pushes it edge-on). I'll feel pretty stupid reading this much into it if I'm wrong, but I think I'm right :) [[Special:Contributions/68.118.226.15|68.118.226.15]] 20:45, October 11, 2009 (UTC)
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::The Destiny was not a Stargate Seeding Ship. --[[Special:Contributions/118.138.192.123|118.138.192.123]] 12:11, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
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Isn't it the [[Nakai fighter|the alien spaceship]] what is in the episode called Justice? After it left the destiny it was still in FTL, wasn't it?
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== Vanir Starship Design Similarities ==
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Has anyone noticed how similar the Ancient Shuttles design is to the Vanir Starship with the double engine wings and the overall shape???
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The basic design has a few similarities and I was wondering what people thought :) —[[User:Jnadreth|Jnadreth]] <sup>([[User talk:Jnadreth|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Jnadreth|Contribs]])</sup> 20:23, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
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==Engines==
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I've been thinking that it's kind of weird for Destiny to be propelled by a glowing blue engine strip thing (that looks very high-tech), and then have the shuttles be propelled by small rocket-like engines. It just seems like it would make more sense of the shuttles had destiny-like engines as well... opposed to more primitive-looking rockets. —[[User:Anubis 10545|Anubis 10545]] <sup>([[User talk:Anubis 10545|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Anubis 10545|Contribs]])</sup> 01:12, April 4, 2010 (UTC)
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:Well, one does double as FTL, so it would look more advanced. Maybe they were trying to go for the simple = long-lasting approach. [[Special:Contributions/76.246.19.248|76.246.19.248]] 01:55, April 4, 2010 (UTC)
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::I guess, I guess I'm really not just a fan of the whole steampunk look. I mean, why would a highly advanced race that has mastered space travel still use gears and cogs to the degree that they do on Destiny. —[[User:Anubis 10545|Anubis 10545]] <sup>([[User talk:Anubis 10545|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Anubis 10545|Contribs]])</sup> 01:57, April 4, 2010 (UTC)
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:::I see your point, but have you read/seen The Time Machine? I equate it to something like that level of sci-fi tech. {{User:Ka'lel/sig}} - 04:10, April 4, 2010 (UTC)
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::::Well this actually isn't the first mismatch of Ancient engines. The Jumpers and City-ships use the blue engines, though not in the shape destiny uses. The city ships use them in a "strip" format. But the Aurora-class use the yellow thruster like appearance...So, I'm not sure the color/design is really a big deal. [[User:Phoenix304|Phoenix304]] <sup>([[User talk:Phoenix304|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Phoenix304|Contribs]])</sup> 19:40, May 6, 2011 (UTC)
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== Stealth mode!??? ==
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Stealth mode???? [[User:Vilnisr|Vilnisr]] <sup>([[User talk:Vilnisr|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Vilnisr|Contribs]])</sup> 12:30, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
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:Probably more of a "running quiet" type of mode than an "Ancient cloaking technology" type of mode. {{User:Ka'lel/sig}} - 14:19, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
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maybe then "silent mode" [[User:Vilnisr|Vilnisr]] <sup>([[User talk:Vilnisr|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Vilnisr|Contribs]])</sup> 16:26, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
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:Perhaps, but this is pulled from one of the English tags they put on the Ancient controls. One of the buttons translates to "Stealth mode". {{User:Ka'lel/sig}} - 16:53, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
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ok [[User:Vilnisr|Vilnisr]] <sup>([[User talk:Vilnisr|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Vilnisr|Contribs]])</sup> 17:36, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
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==3rd shuttle?==
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I noticed while watching several shots of ''Destiny'', there appears to be what looks like a landing pad for a 3rd shuttle. Right behind the one for the second (lost) shuttle.—[[Special:Contributions/81.245.35.249|81.245.35.249]] 11:56, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
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well theres the shurrle with the corpse in
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the shuttle they always fly
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and the shuttle they left behind on that planet that was unable to get back up again after intensive repairs.
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:No, the one with Mr. Armstrong's body and the one that was left on the planet are the same.—[[User:Supakillaii|Supakillaii]] <sup>([[User talk:Supakillaii|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Supakillaii|Contribs]])</sup> 13:35, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
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::But yeah, there seems to be three landing pads. —[[User:Supakillaii|Supakillaii]] <sup>([[User talk:Supakillaii|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Supakillaii|Contribs]])</sup> 13:38, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
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:::Well, it's 0 shuttles now...awwww! I liked the shuttles! "Aunt Phaigus! The power bill for the whole year is $7 billion dollars!" "Oh, that's just my Stargate!" This message has been signed by Morgan! 04:02, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
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I don't think [[Aftermath]] is the last time we see the shuttle. I believe in the future episode the shuttle will be back. I been reviewing the season two trailer and there is a scene of the shuttle. Not only that, this shuttle though same in design, seem to be new in term of the interior being polished. Don't believe it, check this link [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvKXVO4o2ls S2 trailer 2]. The shuttle scene is at 2:01 to 2:03. More precisely at 2:02. [[User:Hafiedz|Hafiedz]] <sup>([[User talk:Hafiedz|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Hafiedz|Contribs]])</sup> 23:36, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
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:Yes, there are images from the shuttle which have yet to be shown, including one with some sort of alien container. They'll obviously be replacing the lost shuttle. — [[User:The Rogue Penguin|Trust not the Penguin]] ([[User talk:The Rogue Penguin|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/The Rogue Penguin|C]]) 16:22, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
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::It is more than likely that they could get a new shuttle from the [[Seed ship]]. Actually the only known sources of Ancient technology in that part of the universe are, on Destiny, on the [[Seed ship]]s, on the Obelisk planet, on Aftermath planet, possibly with the Blueberry aliens, and where ever the third shuttle went. You have to remeber that things like this happen a lot in TV, for example. When Atlantis lost their one ZPM they got three ZPMs in only two episodes, and than they lost the other two in the next episode.--[[User:Uriel718|Uriel718]] <sup>([[User talk:Uriel718|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Uriel718|Contribs]])</sup> 16:01, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
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::Actually they gave them to Earth. One for the drone chair and one for the Odyssey. [[User:Jauh0|Jauh0]] <sup>([[User talk:Jauh0|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Jauh0|Contribs]])</sup> 13:41, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
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:::It makes sense for the ship to have more shuttle pads than shuttles so a visiting shuttle from a planet or other ship could dock without someone having to temporarily take an existing one out. Its the reason that naval frigates on Earth have two helicopter pads when they only have one helicopter stationed aboard. [[Special:Contributions/83.104.138.141|83.104.138.141]] 13:33, May 5, 2011 (UTC)
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:::I added that are three shuttle landing pads on Destiny at Specifications. [[User:Portalier|Portalier]] <sup>([[User talk:Portalier|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Portalier|Contribs]])</sup> 08:14, August 24, 2012 (UTC)

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Plot hole/Door Confusion

There was a bit of confusion regarding the situation surrounding Armstrong's death. The airlock door on the Destiny is the one that is stuck half closed and they are not able to repair or close fully. The door to the shuttle, for some reason, only remains closed if someone is inside the shuttle. They tried propping the door open to let the person back out, but the door won't stay closed unless someone is in there (it acted like elevator doors). I'm surprised they didn't try taping a pencil to a Kino to fly it in there and press the button. It strikes me as a strange safety protocol that the shuttle needs someone inside to keep the door closed. Cheers. —Ka'lel (talk) (Contribs) 20:30, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

They probably would figure this out, but, you know, rmstrong had a gun --╔▲╠☼╚╡∩║⌠⅜⌡├┤∩ (talk) (Contribs) 20:51, October 3, 2009 (UTC)
Probably the Kino+Pencil do not work, because it`s a safety protocol designed to prevent the shuttle became inaccesible while docked with Destiny. The shuttle need the presence of a human-like body inside of it to operate (maybe the weight on the chair, maybe the correct form/body_heat... who knows?).
The senator already has a "death sentence" when he reach Destiny: the "internal bleeding" + "lightblood pills" means dead by loss of blood; the "heart condition" - "lightblood pills" means dead by cardiac arrest (or something worst)... Not mention the (out-universe fact), that his actor was a "red shirt" guest star, that means his role was designed for a heroic-dead_plot-start for the Cloe`s caracter; he need to die saving everyone, (and soon) in the series.
[In the final episode] they try to remote-control one empty shuttle from the Destiny`s bridge (they do not even know Destiny has one in that time), and it was an special operation that need the "full access" from the MasterCode^TM, something they do not figured how to crack yet. Argamis (talk) (Contribs) 09:00, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

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Not an Ancient Shuttle

Saving/linking the image here so it doesn't get lost and can be linked to the proper page when we find out what it is. It could be an Ancient Shuttle, but it is certainly not of the same design we saw in Air Parts 1 & 2. This shuttle has five windows: One center, rectangular; four others, circular. The Ancient shuttle has three rectangular windows. The shape is also different, as is the colour of its engine exhaust and its shielding appears to be different as well. Also, it was attached to the hull and had no visible access point to the inside of Destiny. It certainly wasn't connected to an airlock. Cheers. Kal'el T | C - 04:27, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

I didnt get the picture from the episode, it was from a Sky 1 interview show thing so I didn't see the full thing about it launching from an airlock or not, just it flying away from the Destiny. I just assumed it must be a shuttle of some sort, never mind though :D Sman789 (talk) (Contribs) 18:30, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

I see. That sucks then because they gave away the final scene (though it doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the episode). It was still a nice little cliffhanger that makes me want to see next week's episode. On another note, I like that Sky1's logo is in the top left, as Syfy (and SPACE) are in the bottom right. It makes it easier for me to brush the logo out of complex, static images when I can combine the clean area from another image. Cheers. Kal'el T | C - 05:10, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

I just watched the episode and the first thing that went through my mind as it detached from Destiny is that it was a stargate. I think Destiny is seeding stargates just like the other ships that came before it, and this little ship is how it does it. If you look at it closely, it appears that the ship is a bubble and engine attached to/wrapped around a gate (the gate lies horizontal, so the engine pushes it edge-on). I'll feel pretty stupid reading this much into it if I'm wrong, but I think I'm right :) 68.118.226.15 20:45, October 11, 2009 (UTC)

The Destiny was not a Stargate Seeding Ship. --118.138.192.123 12:11, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Isn't it the the alien spaceship what is in the episode called Justice? After it left the destiny it was still in FTL, wasn't it?

Vanir Starship Design Similarities

Has anyone noticed how similar the Ancient Shuttles design is to the Vanir Starship with the double engine wings and the overall shape???

The basic design has a few similarities and I was wondering what people thought :) —Jnadreth (talk) (Contribs) 20:23, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Engines

I've been thinking that it's kind of weird for Destiny to be propelled by a glowing blue engine strip thing (that looks very high-tech), and then have the shuttles be propelled by small rocket-like engines. It just seems like it would make more sense of the shuttles had destiny-like engines as well... opposed to more primitive-looking rockets. —Anubis 10545 (talk) (Contribs) 01:12, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

Well, one does double as FTL, so it would look more advanced. Maybe they were trying to go for the simple = long-lasting approach. 76.246.19.248 01:55, April 4, 2010 (UTC)
I guess, I guess I'm really not just a fan of the whole steampunk look. I mean, why would a highly advanced race that has mastered space travel still use gears and cogs to the degree that they do on Destiny. —Anubis 10545 (talk) (Contribs) 01:57, April 4, 2010 (UTC)
I see your point, but have you read/seen The Time Machine? I equate it to something like that level of sci-fi tech. Kal'el T | C - 04:10, April 4, 2010 (UTC)
Well this actually isn't the first mismatch of Ancient engines. The Jumpers and City-ships use the blue engines, though not in the shape destiny uses. The city ships use them in a "strip" format. But the Aurora-class use the yellow thruster like appearance...So, I'm not sure the color/design is really a big deal. Phoenix304 (talk) (Contribs) 19:40, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Stealth mode!???

Stealth mode???? Vilnisr (talk) (Contribs) 12:30, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Probably more of a "running quiet" type of mode than an "Ancient cloaking technology" type of mode. Kal'el T | C - 14:19, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

maybe then "silent mode" Vilnisr (talk) (Contribs) 16:26, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps, but this is pulled from one of the English tags they put on the Ancient controls. One of the buttons translates to "Stealth mode". Kal'el T | C - 16:53, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

ok Vilnisr (talk) (Contribs) 17:36, April 24, 2010 (UTC)


3rd shuttle?

I noticed while watching several shots of Destiny, there appears to be what looks like a landing pad for a 3rd shuttle. Right behind the one for the second (lost) shuttle.—81.245.35.249 11:56, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

well theres the shurrle with the corpse in

the shuttle they always fly

and the shuttle they left behind on that planet that was unable to get back up again after intensive repairs.

No, the one with Mr. Armstrong's body and the one that was left on the planet are the same.—Supakillaii (talk) (Contribs) 13:35, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
But yeah, there seems to be three landing pads. —Supakillaii (talk) (Contribs) 13:38, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
Well, it's 0 shuttles now...awwww! I liked the shuttles! "Aunt Phaigus! The power bill for the whole year is $7 billion dollars!" "Oh, that's just my Stargate!" This message has been signed by Morgan! 04:02, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think Aftermath is the last time we see the shuttle. I believe in the future episode the shuttle will be back. I been reviewing the season two trailer and there is a scene of the shuttle. Not only that, this shuttle though same in design, seem to be new in term of the interior being polished. Don't believe it, check this link S2 trailer 2. The shuttle scene is at 2:01 to 2:03. More precisely at 2:02. Hafiedz (talk) (Contribs) 23:36, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, there are images from the shuttle which have yet to be shown, including one with some sort of alien container. They'll obviously be replacing the lost shuttle. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 16:22, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
It is more than likely that they could get a new shuttle from the Seed ship. Actually the only known sources of Ancient technology in that part of the universe are, on Destiny, on the Seed ships, on the Obelisk planet, on Aftermath planet, possibly with the Blueberry aliens, and where ever the third shuttle went. You have to remeber that things like this happen a lot in TV, for example. When Atlantis lost their one ZPM they got three ZPMs in only two episodes, and than they lost the other two in the next episode.--Uriel718 (talk) (Contribs) 16:01, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
Actually they gave them to Earth. One for the drone chair and one for the Odyssey. Jauh0 (talk) (Contribs) 13:41, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
It makes sense for the ship to have more shuttle pads than shuttles so a visiting shuttle from a planet or other ship could dock without someone having to temporarily take an existing one out. Its the reason that naval frigates on Earth have two helicopter pads when they only have one helicopter stationed aboard. 83.104.138.141 13:33, May 5, 2011 (UTC)
I added that are three shuttle landing pads on Destiny at Specifications. Portalier (talk) (Contribs) 08:14, August 24, 2012 (UTC)