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however, once they achieved ascension, they would acquire virtually all knowledge and understanding and could easily have their followers/prior's create a Stargate network. However, whether they use Stargates, or another means of moving prior's from one planet to another normally, we dont know. But they do have supergate technology, and send PRior's to the Milky way, through a stargate, so, its likely they at least have a few at the time they invade.[[Special:Contributions/74.129.75.153|74.129.75.153]] 00:28, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
 
however, once they achieved ascension, they would acquire virtually all knowledge and understanding and could easily have their followers/prior's create a Stargate network. However, whether they use Stargates, or another means of moving prior's from one planet to another normally, we dont know. But they do have supergate technology, and send PRior's to the Milky way, through a stargate, so, its likely they at least have a few at the time they invade.[[Special:Contributions/74.129.75.153|74.129.75.153]] 00:28, February 11, 2010 (UTC)
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As for them acquiring all knowledge and understanding, it's been established elsewhere that there are different levels of ascension.  Whether this applies to the Ori vs. Ancients - who knows.  We know they know how to make the supergate, but the technology to make seed ships may be different.  Although (I presume, though I don't really know all that much about SG canon) the only canon for this would be SGU.  And that "seeding mission" was started millions of years before the events of SG, possibly before the seeding of the Milky Way and (hypothetically) Alteran home galaxy.  Not to mention that the SGU Destiny stargate (and the ones that Destiny makes?) is an earlier model than Milky Way and Pegasus gates.
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Also, if the Ancients *did* seed the Alteran galaxy before their split with the Ori, might they have destroyed the gate network as to make it harder for the Ori to expand (or whatever ascended beings do)? [[Special:Contributions/98.223.232.159|98.223.232.159]] 12:29, August 16, 2014 (UTC)
   
 
== Ori Home Galaxy ==
 
== Ori Home Galaxy ==

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The distance of 147 million light years from earth isn't speculation, its math, based upon in-show dialogue. Unsigned comment by Nomad117 (talk • contribs).

You assume that the Ori hyperdrive is the equivalent to the Asgard hyperdrive, you assume that hyperspace travel takes the same amount of time flying different ways (which is disproven by Stargate Atlantis: Angelus) and you assume that the Stargate galaxy is the same as our own. There's no such thing as the Kaliem galaxy or the Othala galaxy in the real world, so we don't add anything to this wiki that isn't said either on the show or in spinoff material. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 21:56, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Actually, while there is no Kaliem galaxy, both the Ida and Othala galaxies were named so by the Asgard, so they may actually be real, just with different names than what we call them. However, we can't do anything about it since no other information has been given. —AscendedAlteran 03:18, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Point taken, but the novels have never been firmly established as canon. As speculation though, the Ori hyperdrive is possibly more advanced than the Asgard Drive, as the Ori and Ancients had similar levels of technology. Nomad117

If Ori hyperdrives were more advanced than Asgard hyperdrives then the Ori motherships chasing the Odyssey in both Unending and the Ark of Truth movie would have arrived BEFORE the Odyssey whenever it dropped out of hyperspace. —AscendedAlteran 22:36, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
The Ori didn't know where the Odyssey was going exactly, so therefore had to follow it. Also keep in mind that the Odyssey's systems are boosted by the ZPM, while the only real data we have on Ori drive speeds is that is would take them a year to get to the Milky Way from there galaxy, without a supergate. Assuming that the Odyssey has the same sort of hyperdrive model as the Daedalus, a ZPM gives a HUGE boost in their drive speed, seeing as how the Daedalus usually takes 3 weeks to go from Earth to Atlantis, and with a ZPM they did it in just four. -Nomad117
Okay, first of all where was it ever said that it would take a year to get to the Milky Way? Second, the arguments about the effects of power boosts on Asgard hyperdrives were covered extensively several months ago in the talk page for the Hyperdrive article. Lastly, I do agree that the Ori ships had to follow the Odyssey, but we already know that it's possible to calculate precisely where and when a ship will drop out of hyperspace. —AscendedAlteran 03:18, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
A bit of a late entry to this, but AscendedAlteran should learn his facts before opening his mouth. Only Wraith ships can be tracked by calculating the points where they will drop put, because they have to drop out. If you ever take quiz, I seriously recommend that you don't try to answer any Stargate related questions, given your Runescape level knowledge of the franchise.

stargates in the Ori Galaxy

Is there any evidence that the Ori home galaxy was seeded with stargates, because it seems a little counterintuitive for the the Ancients/Alterans/Lanteans to wish to provide the people who exiled them with such technology?

I dont think there will be Stargates there. In the Ark of Truth, you see the Alteran who designed it. He mentioned he had the idea, just as they were leaving the Galaxy.—ElChristo (talk) (Contribs) 22:36, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

however, once they achieved ascension, they would acquire virtually all knowledge and understanding and could easily have their followers/prior's create a Stargate network. However, whether they use Stargates, or another means of moving prior's from one planet to another normally, we dont know. But they do have supergate technology, and send PRior's to the Milky way, through a stargate, so, its likely they at least have a few at the time they invade.74.129.75.153 00:28, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

As for them acquiring all knowledge and understanding, it's been established elsewhere that there are different levels of ascension.  Whether this applies to the Ori vs. Ancients - who knows.  We know they know how to make the supergate, but the technology to make seed ships may be different.  Although (I presume, though I don't really know all that much about SG canon) the only canon for this would be SGU.  And that "seeding mission" was started millions of years before the events of SG, possibly before the seeding of the Milky Way and (hypothetically) Alteran home galaxy.  Not to mention that the SGU Destiny stargate (and the ones that Destiny makes?) is an earlier model than Milky Way and Pegasus gates.

Also, if the Ancients *did* seed the Alteran galaxy before their split with the Ori, might they have destroyed the gate network as to make it harder for the Ori to expand (or whatever ascended beings do)? 98.223.232.159 12:29, August 16, 2014 (UTC)

Ori Home Galaxy

This page is full of errors. The Alteran home galaxy is the Milky Ways because they were not the Alterans until after they left their home galaxy. The name of their original society is unknown. Jimv1983 (talk) (Contribs) 08:06, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

Distance

The distance between the Milky Way Galaxy and the Ori Galaxy is likely in the billions of lightyears, given that Ori ships can keep up with a ZPM-equipped 304, which can travel 4 million lightyears per day. At 4 million lightyears per day, 1.46 billion lightyears can be traveled in a year. The distance between the two galaxies is likely larger than that 1.46 billion lightyears because otherwise the Ori wouldn't have spend a year trying to get a supergate operational.

Btw: I wonder if the Ori once sent out unmanned probes to as many galaxies as they could to spread the disease that almost wiped out the ancients, they couldn't have send it via stargate because they didn't know the location of the Milky Way Galaxy back then, so they must have used some kind of unmanned probe that would travel through hyperspace for many years, possible replicating itself along the way and one happened to infect the Milky Way Galaxy by chance.

195.169.213.92 14:10, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

The presence of Stargates

Regarding the topic above, I do think the Ori do have at least one Stargate. In Beachhead, a Prior came through a gate, then the Supergate pieces came through it, so it had to connect to the Ori galaxy. Even if it didn't how else would the Priors be able to arrive in our galaxy that fast. They needed the Supergate to send a fleet through.

It also would be reasonable, since the Ori also had ring transporters, that they developed something like a Stargate. It may not have looked like any we've seen, but had the same function.Nivaoo (talk) (Contribs) 17:34, July 7, 2014 (UTC)