User talk:Jaymach

Please do not continue adding information from "System Lord Plot Hooks" until a consensus is reached as to whether or not it should be considered canon. The discussion can be found here. 67.171.163.212 17:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Jaymach? -- SFH 19:26, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes? &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 19:33, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

soo. deff. not having a good day so far X_x; *cried her way home* Amberyl Whirlwind 16:40, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * O.o what's wrong today? You seemed okay yesterday >.> If it's your mum then tell her I'm gonna come and beat her up or something...not that I will...but I'll be thinking it! >.> <.< My day's just been boring so far...not good or bad...but really...what's wrong? :-/ 195.153.219.170 16:53, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I got ready really early today, took a shower, went to work to pick up my paycheck, and then drove down to my Smoky hill and was like "can i just say bye to Ms. Brown and Ms. howe? i leave tomorrow for college." and they said no visitors until 3:05 when school lets out. and then they said they can't let former students in :/ i just wanted to tell her that I was gonna be an art minor or major and that i wanted to thank her for being such an awesomely inspiring teacher before I left :/ and now I can't >_< so i spent the whole trip home sobbing in my car and trying not to drive off the road >_<;
 * Sorry it's taken so long to reply >.> I went on a call as soon as I left the last message and then the team was like "homg quick dinner!!" so I had to go then >.> Do you know anyone that still goes to Smoky Hill at all? If you do then you could give them a note to give to Ms Howe/Brown, no? I mean it wun be the same as going in and telling them, but you could either do that or if you remember their 1st names then I should be able to find their e-mail addresses for you >.> You know I'm good at that kinda thing. But I'll make sure you get in contact with them...trust meh. :P No more crying! 195.153.219.170 17:56, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * its okay.. not crying anymore. just eating cold burger king fries feeling fat and unmissed XP listening to Muse and Augustana X_x; I jsut wanted to say bye to some people before I left and like.. none of them are there or available or want to see me so its like "YEAH WE'LL MISS YOU. sure. whats your name again?"
 * You know they'll remember you Erin...I'm really surprised just how close you are to most of your teachers >.> It's weird to me...but they'll definitely remember you Erin...and yeah...getting lots of calls sucks ass >.> And means that I can't really talk all too much...so sorry my love. You know I miss you at least? And no feeling fat! You're already thin...and I like it >.> So no turning into a stick! 195.153.219.170 19:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * *curls up with you* I know :'< its just like.. bleh. I called and made appointments lol;; I have a lot of art to do X_x; I'm so not in the mood. Kristin and I might watch V for Vendetta tonight around 3-ish. and then i hafta pick Mike and Lauren up at track tonight. thats done at 5:30. so I'll be home kinda soon to when you are. and its okay that you're not talking too much. I've had to run around doing laundry and whatnot X-x; I only have... one pair of capris that I'm wearing atm.  a hoodie which I'm wearing. ( in 90+ weather X_x; ) jeans for tomorrow and a t-shirt lol. the rest is packed away @_@; oye. so naked feeling :'< and weird and depressed and alone @_@; ugh. oh well. at leas ti get to say g'bye to Mr. Batt and Ms. brown <3. thats good at least. phew @_@; sorry this is long :/. anyways. *hug* I know you miss me. and I miss you too. its just like.. bleh @_@; i dunno. I'm weird and emotional lol;;.
 * Yeah but...having like half an hour between saying things is getting kinda...blah >.> Can I come watch V for Vendetta with you? It's not that great of a film but...well...Natalie Portman looks good in it even if she's bald >.> Shush! You didn't hear that! Lalalala...but yeah...I'll be home around about the usual time tonight and...I leave in like an 2 hours >.> Hopefully anyway...it's just getting so boring having actual tech calls rather than just "I'm sorry, but we don't have a service yet" calls...oh well...can you just phone up even if you don't have the service? 195.153.219.170 19:53, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * yeah Natalie is the only women able to pull off baldness. anyways. i gotta do laundry and get ready to go say Bye to my teachers :3. I'll see you when you get home kay? <3. I love you. WORK HARD !:D !
 * You should never say bye >.> Just say cya later or that you'll catch them later or something...bye is always too final. But I'm going for break now anyway >.> I'll cya soon my love. 195.153.219.170 20:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Licensing
Hi, Jaymach! Thanks for all the good work you've been doing here. I'm sorry it's been months (going on a year) since I've been able to participate much. I have a concern that the GFDL for this site is being mis-understood. Things that are published on this site are released under GFDL, so their future use may not be restricted in the way that Template:Stargatecaps requests. That means we will need to remove those images. :-( Please see SGCommand:Copyrights and the copyrights information on the Central Wikia.  As one of the more active current users, I hope you can help share this information and maybe help with replacement images that fit the guidelines?  By the way, are you interested in being an administer?  --CocoaZen 21:57, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmmm...I've been going by the same guidelines we use over on the Wookieepedia, which can be found over here. Of course we don't use the same tagging over here as is done on the Wookieepedia, but I'd assume that the law remains the same; if this is so, then I'd advise copying over some of the image tagging templates from the Wookieepedia to use here. And sure, I'd love to be an administrator...it doesn't mean all too much at the moment, as we have very little editing let alone vandalism, but it could be useful later. :) &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 23:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Then you might want to check the Wookieepedia rules against Wikia's and find out more about the legal status of screencaps from copyrighted material.
 * Specifically in the case of Stargate caps, GFDL means that you can't say they can be used here, but not somewhere else. So, since Stargatecaps were "allowed" for here only, they cannot be used under GFDL, so they can't be used on Wikia.   I put the link to the conversation on the Central Wikia on the template's talk page.
 * I don't know the status of screencaps in general. I've seen people claim that they are ok, but they had no legal background, and in a few cases said things that they said were incorrect.  As far as I know, this issue still needs follow-up.  I hope someone will follow-up so we won't need to remove a lot more images.
 * Please be aware that if you add illegal images, you are legally responsible.
 * --CocoaZen 21:36, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Template
Thank you. That will make things so much easier if they ever start iding address on SGA again. -- SFH 21:53, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

new tabs...
Jaymach - You may notice some extra tabs now on this Wikia's pages. You are now an administrator here. See Wikia:Help:Administrators' how-to guide for more information. Use the force for good! :-) Enjoy.  --CocoaZen 20:30, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks...and don't worry about it, I'm used to the tabs from over on the Wookieepedia (the Star Wars Wiki). &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 22:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Welcome
Sorry it's late but:

Greetings,

Welcome to Stargate Command. Your recent contributions are much appreciated. Looking forward to more.

--GingerM 19:10, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Tenses
If you have a desire to have incorrect then that is your prerogative, it is wrong however. MatthewFenton 19:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Furlings?
Where did you get the information about the previous residents of Madrona (that you wrote [ here] in the infobox)? —Marco Polo 22:16, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It's in the RPG book. The Furlings are apparantly the race who terraformed Madrona, and also the inventors of the Touchstone...I've just not got around to doing Madrona yet...want me to write it up so there's no more confusion? &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 00:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Address templates
Sorry, Jaymach, but I had to revert the change of from 20px back to 25px. The addresses didn't show up at 20px. -- SFH 03:23, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've spoken to sannse about it...turns out the latest MediaWiki upgrade has some problems with .svg images. Basically, it's unable to display thumbnails for any of them...but because we already had 25px thumbnails generated for those .svg images, they'll still work as long as we don't change them away from 25px...hopefully it will be fixed soon so that I can move it down to 20px. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 15:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Images
I uploaded the Gamekeeper point of origin image for you. However, I cannot fix the other problem (transparency) because the images are transparent. Wikia's thumbnailer does not do any transparency, so the transparent portions of the SVG images are white. —Marco Polo 23:01, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion?
I Suggest that if you already have these info boxes use them, It makes the page look a lot more professional and clean, It also takes almost no time to add them! -- Awar 04:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC).
 * Please dont take this as being rude but merely a personal thought on how to improve this site to make the best information source on stargate. -- Awar 04:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC).
 * We use the infoboxes where appropriate. See Tollan, Mars, Heliopolis, Volca, Asgard, et al for examples of where they're used. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 04:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Osiris's Ship
I appreciate you moving it, but shouldn't it be Osiris' Ship (without the extra s)? -- Reignfire 20:34, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Official Friends of SGCommand
Hey, this is a nice wiki you have here, I like it. Anyway, I know we have had our differences on the Wookieepedia IRC, but I would like to know where I could find the "Official Friends of SGCommand" page? I can't seem to find any, but if you are looking for any, SWGames would love to be a friend to here. We need to gain in popularity, and so I decided to come to one that is really popular and has good articles. Thank you very much! supergeeky1 21:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

List of Stargates
I stumbled across this Planets in Stargate which might help you with List of Stargates. -- Reignfire 06:23, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The problem with that list is that it's full of fan-made Tau'ri designations and addresses...I'm checking each address as I add it to the list so that they're all correct. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 06:25, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well... I never said it was accurate :p -- Reignfire 06:32, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

DVD Collection magazine
I noticed you skipped Stargate SG-1: The DVD Collection 59. I didn't know if this was on purpose or not, so I just wanted to point it out. -- Reignfire 15:39, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I realized...unfortunately issue 59 didn't get delivered when it was meant to. I've already complained to the company, and I'm meant to get it soon...so I should add the article for it within the next 2 weeks at most. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 23:05, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Do the DVD Collection Magazines add anything new to the Stargate universe or simply repeat the samethings that are said or shown on the show? I see that the 59 one has an entry called 'Creations of the Ori' so was just wondering. Anyway main question I wanted to ask is that is it in the magazines that the Asgard Science class gets its name from? Darth Batrus 22:34, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry for taking so long to get back to you...the "The DVD Collection" magazines do indeed add to the Stargate universe, though the level of what they add varies from article to article. The "Creations of the Ori" article, for example, mostly just gives details on the Ori's "sacrificial pyre" as well as noting differences between patterns on the Prior's faces. There may be a bit of new information in it, but a quick glance over it doesn't show anything glaring to me. Nevertheless, if you want me to scan it then I'm more than happy to do so. I already have a bunch of the pages up at my site. :) &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 01:36, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Auxiery control center?
I belive that the Ancient citys did have auxilery control centers as I watched in the tower & [the return] -- Awar 05:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC).

Entertainment footer
Hi there -- I'm working on a project for Wikia to help link the science-fiction wikis together, and encourage people to see this as one big site, rather than a lot of little wikis. I'd like to post this footer at the bottom of the main page.

The gaming wikis have started a similar project, and they've seen a lot more cross-traffic. Would it be okay to post this at the bottom of the main page here? You could also feel free to edit it, to fit in better with this community. -- Danny (talk ) 20:36, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry it's taken me so long to reply to this...I've been inordinately busy with my work as of late...but I'd be perfectly okay with putting that on the bottom of the main page...so okay that I've just done so...and we really need to work on our main page. Ah well, that can happen later. :) &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 08:20, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Cool, thank you! -- Danny (talk ) 21:45, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

SciFi wiki
I'm an admin on SciFi Wiki which needs help with Stargate information, could you or someone you know help? Also, is there a place I can ask other users to help out?--UESPA 23:56, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Jaymach - Do me a big favour please
Make User:SGCommand an admin please--SGCommand wikia 19:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I apologize for taking so long to get back to you, but I've been mulling this over in my head the past few days to decide what to do. While I do understand that you used to be an administrator on the site, and indeed that you even founded the wiki, I'm afraid I don't feel that gives you the right to turn up out of the blue and ask for a position of authority again. The very fact that you haven't edited at all (besides making an edit to your userpage) since returning was really the deciding factor for me, as you seem to want the admin position again simply to say "I'm an admin over there". Feel free to prove me wrong and start contributing to the site again and I will be happy to rethink my position, but at the moment I simply don't see any reason why I should acquiesce to this request. Apologies, but I'd like to see you contribute first. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 18:01, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Spotlight
Hi Jaymach. I'm Wendy, a helper with the Entertainment group. I just wanted to give you a heads up that Stargate will be one of the spotlighted wikis for the next two weeks, because of the Ark of Truth release. You have things running pretty well here, so I'm sure you'll be fine, but I wanted to let you know that you might have some extra traffic. -- Wendy (talk ) 01:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up...I had better start contributing a bit more to set an example. :P &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 01:31, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Transwiki two wikipedia articles
Hello. I am wikipedia:User:Sgeureka, and I am currently cleaning up Stargate-related wikipedia articles. I got your name because you mentioned your interest at wikipedia:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stargate to have the Atlantis episode articles transwikied here (which is currently being done).

I have two wikipedia articles that may be of interest for this fan wiki, but are inappropriate for wikipedia. It is Timeline of Stargate and Goa'uld language. Since you have admin rights, you may be interested in importing at least the second article (per wikipedia:User:Ned_Scott/transwiki). I also transwikied an article to http://annex.wikia.com/wiki/Unas_language before it got deleted on wikipedia, which could be imported here.

Let me know what you think. I will probably nominate the first two wikipedia articles for deletion in about two weeks. Sgeureka 17:05, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you...I've been reading over the articles and the instructions on how to export/import them...I'll be doing so later today, but the main problem I have with it is that they're written from an out of universe perspective, whereas we prefer past tense in universe perspective on this wiki...so I'll import, then try to change it so it fits with the wiki. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 00:26, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


 * ...And wikipedia throws a fit when it is written in in-universe past tense. :-) This was just an offer to save some info for the interested fans, so take your time, even if you decide in the end it's not really the kind of content this wiki is looking for. Just let me know when you're finished. Have a nice rest-weekend. :-) Sgeureka 22:46, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Main Page
Hi again Jaymach. As I've been browsing around here the last couple of days I keep looking and looking at the main page. I also noticed that you mention wanting to redo it a few discussions up from here. Would you be interested in working on that now? I thought maybe we could open a discussion on Talk:Main Page to see what other users would like to see added/changed, but if you think it would be better, I'd also be happy to just mock something up and put it under my namespace to see what people think and go from there. Or if you want to take a shot at it that would be great, because you certainly know the wiki better than I do. what do you think? -- Wendy (talk ) 00:36, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * My main problem is that, though I know the wiki quite well, I have no sense of aesthetics at all so it's hard for me to design anything. If you want to design a mock-up, then it would be most appreciated...if anything needs added/removed from it then I could let you know from there. To be honest, I'd also like to have another name for the site (seeing as SGCommand is simply the name of the founder) but I can't think of anything for the life of me. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 01:03, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi there -- take a look at User:Merrystar/Mainpage and see what you think. I took out some of the content links because there were just so many.  I also took out "Vote for Stargater of the Month" since it seemed to be dead, and the Birthday banner, because I was having trouble making it work with the two columns.  I can try to put that last back in if you want.  I tried not to add too much stuff you'd really have to update, but to leave a spot where you *could* update stuff.  If you wanted, we could add something about the IRC room too, but I wasn't sure.  -- Wendy  (talk ) 18:14, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that example...as with SFH, I like the design...I'm not too sure with the black on the headers, but until we get our new skin then I'm not too sure what other colour we could use. As such, I'll go and implement the new main page just now. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 00:26, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool. I'm glad you like it. Feel free to remove the black; the default pale blues and aquas just seemed wrong for stargate to me.... and then I saw Jack in a black skicap and went with it.  Are you working on a new skin?  I wondered why it was "Monaco-custom" but basically still sapphire.  -- Wendy  (talk ) 01:19, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


 * btw, have you ever thought about moving "Main Page" to a better title? Like "Stargate Wiki" for example.  It actually helps search engines find you if the probably search terms (stargate, wiki) are in the title.  Just a thought.  (if you do move it you have to edit Mediawiki:Mainpage to reflect the new name as well).  -- Wendy  (talk ) 01:23, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

stargate
I added the  tags on that page because an image was over lapping some text; perhaps you don't see that on your end? kluft 07:06, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Monaco-toolbox
Hi! Just so you know -- I made a change on MediaWiki:Monaco-toolbox... There was a cache problem that was making "What links here" not work on a lot of sites. So what I did should fix it. -- Danny (talk ) 02:12, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Disambiguations
I started working on this because there were so many pages linking to Wormhole X-Treme! instead of Wormhole X-Treme! (episode). It seemed to me that my move would make things a bit clearer, but if the criterion is what you wrote, I'll stick to it.

Anyway, we could make a page called Wormhole X-Treme! (disambiguation). What do you think?

BTW, sorry if I kept editing while you reverted, I didn't realize it. Next time, if you write in my talk page I'll know immediately and stop immediately!

--Lou Crazy 01:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You can make the disambiguation page if you like, but it seems rather pointless when there's only 2 articles with that name, and the one at the main page links to the other. No worries about continuing to edit...I figured that's what had happened, but if I thought if I left a message on your talk page then you wouldn't have seen it until after you made the edit which changed the main article into a disambiguation. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 01:16, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, you're right, with just 2 it would be overkill. I wouldn't have added more links to the (show) page, though :-)
 * --Lou Crazy 01:46, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Sock puppet sighting
I understand that you were the one who blocked Sam10. Well I have reason to believe that To10 is a sock puppet of him (he was the one who created the imaginary planet of "P9D-851"). Other evidence includes the poor grammar and the introduction on both user pages are uncannily similar.—Matthew R Dunn 11:53, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello again, there is a new user who goes by User:So10. I should seriously recommend that this user be banned because he is an evident sockpuppet of Sam10, To10 and Do10. These pages are definately from the same user. Evidence includes the number 10 on the end of each user name and his real name is Sam on all the infoboxes. You can take a look at them yourself. I suggest banning him before he causes more damage to this Wiki. Please come back to me whether you agree or disagree. Matthew R Dunn 12:37, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

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Fandimonium novels and Big Finish Audio are not and have never been canon. This is direct from the producers of the show. Mallozzi must have answered that about 10 times by now on his blog. Do you honestly think they would accept a retrofit of their canon where a major character was replaced by an alternate version created by some fanfic writing wannabe? If you want this wikia to be respected as anything but the fanboy joke that it is currently considered, you need to get a grip on the difference between "canon" and licensed merchandise. Or do you perhaps now believe that it is "canon" that SG1 are 8" tall and made of plastic?

The character assassination you are currently indulging in on the Daniel Jackson page also adds little to your credibility. How many times does Brad Wright have to confirm that Daniel did NOT "do nothing" in Abyss before it sinks in? Try watching it again with both your eyes and ears open and you might notice there are some fairly clear visual and audio cues scattered through out the episode for people who don't need to be spoon-fed. In fact, perhaps a re-viewing of the entire ascension arc may help your understanding that Daniel's continual and escalating breaches of Ascended law lead to his descension, not one single action in one episode. They're called "story arcs" BTW, Stargate has quite a few of them...

Daniel Jackson controversy
I left a question on the talk page that you probably should respond to. -- SFH 19:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Administration
Hey Jaymach, I was wondering if you could make me (Anubis 10545) an administrator here. I placed my name on the SGCommand:administration page, but either you haven't seen it... or you disregarded it. Thanks for your time. Anubis 10545 17:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Don S. Davis
Don S. Davis passed away 6/29/08 and I was thinking that that could be placed on the front page under CurrentEvents. I was going to do it myself, but I didn't want to get an administrator (such as yourself) angry at me for editing the content of the front page (just in case). Hopefully this doesn't sound in bad taste, because I mean it in respect. &mdash; Anubis 10545 01:49, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Main Page
Hiya. Just wanted to bring your attention to this. —Scott ( talk ) 20:14, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Meredith
I realize that Rodney's first name is Meredith, but he goes by Rodney McKay and that is used much more often. As per general Wikipedia syntax, the most-used full name is the title. The full "Meredith Rodney McKay" is best suited to the first few words of the article, in bold. —Marco Polo 12:51, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, but we haven't used Wikipedia standards here for a long time. It was decided quite a long time ago (as per our manual of style that full names should always be used, even when nicknames or shorter names are more common. Wikipedia may work for real-world articles, but it's never worked very well for fictional universes whereas most other Wikia wikis use the same type of rules that we implemented here. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 12:59, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * There is no reason why these two people are so unlike real people that they don't get the same treatment. I can see possible issues with characters like Teal'c, but not with someone like O'Neill or McKay. Also, as per our manual of style: "The titles of articles about individual characters should be the name by which the character was most commonly known in the the Stargate universe, with later names preferred to earlier names, and full names preferred to partial names or nicknames. Titles, such as military ranks or titles of nobility, should be omitted." That means Jack O'Neill and Rodney McKay, because that is how they are most commonly known. As I said, I acknowledge that Jack's full name is Jonathan J. O'Neill, but I think it should be at the beginning of the page, not in the title. Example from Wikipedia: Michael Dukakis. —Marco Polo 13:19, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Notice the full names preferred to partial names or nicknames part of that rule. I know that Wikipedia does things differently, but it was agreed upon some time back that we would not use the same rules as Wikipedia. I don't mean to sound like a "it's my way and not your way" but...it's not just my way, it was decided upon by the community at that time. That having been said, I also personally dislike Wikipedia's rules...I'd prefer that "Michael Dukakis" be at "Michael Stanley Dukakis" and that "Marilyn Manson" be at "Brian Hugh Warner" but it's been decided upon among the community of Wikipedia to have them at other names, I try not to change it. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 13:34, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Those rules were agreed to for a reason. The reason we use the common name even when the real name is available is for a practical reason—more people are bound to search for "Marilyn Manson" than "Brian Hugh Warner", just as more people look for "Jack O'Neill" than "Jonathan J. O'Neill". The full name is still communicated, but it emphasizes the best-known name of the person/character. The "nickname" portion of the above is there to avoid people having the page at "Jack", for example. "Jack O'Neill" is a "full name" in this context. Also, we still use Wikipedia as the basis for most of our style rules, with few exceptions. We haven't diverged to any significant degree, except for a couple Stargate-specific areas. The written point there is essentially the same as Wikipedia's version on naming conventions, with added exceptions to "strange names" (which we come across often here). "Jack O'Neill" definitely does not count as a strange name. Besides, they were "Jack O'Neill" and "Rodney McKay" for a long time. Why change it now? —Marco Polo 14:04, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * We won't be changing it. They've been at Jonathan J. O'Neill and Meredith Rodney McKay for a while now, and I can't authorise changing them just because one person wants to when it was agreed upon by a community that they would be at their full names. And the rules were created purely to have them at their entire full name, as per what the Wookieepedia (the most successful fictional universe wiki) does. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 14:08, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I see no record of a discussion on this, so I don't see how you can claim to have the community behind you on this one. The Star Wars wiki doesn't apply here because they have weird names which can't easily be compared to Earth names (i.e. I don't see many middle names there). I'm pretty sure that we as a community decided to base our style on Wikipedia (the most successful wiki period), which applies better to Earth names. For space names like those in Wookieepedia and the Goa'uld names like Teal'c, just saying "use the full name" works because few creatures or whatever have more formal names than common names. The Wikipedia community decided that the common name method is the best, and just because you don't personally agree with the method doesn't mean you can dictate the way things work here. —Marco Polo 14:57, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry for taking so long to get back to you, but there was an IT crisis at one of the companies I work for last night so I had to head out quickly and then had to do my day-job today. Anyway...the community discussion was largely held out in the IRC chat room and so there wouldn't be any evidence of it on the site itself...I can try to find someone who keeps logs from that far back, but I certainly don't have any. If you really require them, however, then I can try to ask around. As you can see, you have been reverted by another member of the community; if you want to have articles at nicknames and/or partial names, then feel free to start up another discussion which I'll be happy to take part in and accept the outcome of. Until you do so, however, please don't ignore parts of the rules and dictate the way things should be just because you want it that way. And what the Wikipedia community decided doesn't matter here; this isn't the Wikipedia. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 18:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I am more interested in the current view of the community than what was determined in some chat room with no logs, and so I would like a vote to be held on the wiki itself to resolve the matter. As a matter of fact, I did notice that my edit was reverted, although I think it was more on impulse than anything else. I don't want nicknames or partial names to be used, but I do want common names to be used. "Jack O'Neill" is not a nickname, it is his usual name. "Johnny Six-fingers" is a nickname. When he formally introduces himself, he says "Jack O'Neill". The only place it won't say "Jack O'Neill" is on his birth certificate, which lists his full given name, with as many names as he wants. The exact same thing applies to "Rodney McKay". He uses his middle name all the time. The only reason we are aware of his first name is because he has a talkative sister. Another example: Paul McCartney. His first name is "James", but no one is going to look up the famous Beatles singer, James McCartney. We put the page at it's most known name. The rules have stemmed from this basic fact. From Wikipedia's Manual of Style (which is written in much more unambiguous language): "Use the most commonly used English version of the name of the subject as the title of the article, as you would find it in verifiable reliable sources." I know that you don't give any credence to the collected decisions of the largest group of wiki users to exist, but I guarantee you that they thought long and hard to come up with this style choice. If that is not enough, here is another guide, in case of disputes: "When there is evenly divided usage and other guidelines do not apply, leave the article name at the latest stable version. If it is unclear whether an article's name has been stable, defer to the name used by the first major contributor after the article ceased to be a stub." I don't see what more I can do to convince you—I have thousands of pages of evidence here. I'd use evidence from this wiki, but you changed it to your way. You, on the other hand, have provided no concrete evidence to support your claims. To recap: I am not going against or ignoring any part of our MoS, just your interpretation of it (you seem to have a different definition of what a nickname is). And do not try to say that the article has been stable, since it was only left alone because I didn't notice. Although I must give you credit for citing Wookieepedia, you didn't give a specific example to illustrate your point, so I can't see where your thinking comes from. I am really out of ideas to convince you that this is the way things are supposed to be, because nothing I show you has any importance to you. And here's another example, for the road: Bob Dylan. —Marco Polo 06:29, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Again, appologies for getting back to you so late...work's just been hectic lately. Anyway, as to what you were saying...the view represented in the chat room certainly was the current view of the community as of about three or four months ago. Just because it's not your view doesn't mean that it wasn't the view of the community. Many Wikia wikis develop policies and guidelines in chat rooms due to the fact that Wikia themselves encourage it; at the time of the decision, there was in fact a SiteNotice up informing all users that they were welcome to use the chat room. That having been said, I find it strange that you seem to only selectively read what's written on this site...first with the naming policies, and now with what I've stated and so I'll state it again...if you wish to start up another discussion, either on the site or in the IRC chat room, then I will be happy to take part and will be happy to accept the outcome. And no, I don't give any credence to the decisions made on any other site in the world, not just the decisions made on Wikipedia. The only place that matters to me when editting this site is...this site. The reason I dislike Wikipedia's policies, however, stems from the fact that they're widely seen to be a "bullshit website" which is something often seen in both the media and on other web sites. Their pages on fictional universes are often full of incorrect information, assumptions, fan theories, and are incomplete. The entire reason I edit here rather than on Wikipedia's Stargate pages is because of this; it's impossible for me to fix all of their assumptions and incorrect information on my own. Also, I find it odd that you think that the naming policy is "my way" as, if you'd like to check the history of that page, you'd see that I've never editted it once, I simply enforce the rules laid out on it. And you want examples from the Wookieepedia? Personally, I don't see why, but okay...Mitth'raw'nuruodo for Thrawn, Jabba Desilijic Tiure for Jabba the Hutt, Beru Whitesun Lars for Beru Lars, Hart-and-Parn Gorra-Fiolla for Fiolla, Derek Klivian for Hobbie Klivian...if you need more examples, then I'll be happy to go on. The reason I prefer articles at their full name is that this site is meant to be a place for people to learn. If someone searched for Jack O'Neill and they're suddenly at a page called Jonathan J. O'Neill then they're likely to question why and read on a bit rather than assuming Jack O'Neill must be his official name and Jonathan J. is just some thing that was used in the movie. As I've said before though...if you want to change the policies, then please feel free to start up a forum topic on it and I'll quite happilly give a more detailed answer. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 21:03, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I seriously suggest that you reconsider this policy. On the wiki here that I help run, South Park Archives, we have the opposite policy. Myself and the Wikia staff and helpers that assist me there all agree that this policy is for the best. There are several reasons for it. The most important being searches. It would vastly improve the Google search results of the wiki to have the page titles be the most common name. In addition, it is excessive. Titles should only be what they must. No more. Simplicity looks better and works better. On another note. I completely agree with you that Wikipedia's policies are all messed up. They have some rules there that just appalls me. Wikipedia is corrupted beyond repair. That's why I went to other wikis. A lot of policies at Wikipedia are bullcrap. But this is not one of those policies. Just because the site as a whole is bad doesn't mean that there is nothing good in it at all.—Matt (talk) 20:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Non-canon information
Hello Jaymach,

I'd like to thank you for notifying me about this information about the mistakes in the edits I made pertaining to the firearms of Stargate Command.

It's just that I like to add factual information to firearms in different universes, such as Stargate, etc. Hell, I know how difficult it is when people add non-canonical information to your Wikia, leaving you to clean it up.

For that I apologize, and if you'd like, I will hapily revert all of my added content back to it's original state.

Thank you, and have a good day!, CommanderTony 19:43, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

So I finally got around to making that patch thing
See my user page, and let me know what I should do with the colors, which match the patch photo you gave me (more or less) but are quite fugly. :P

Also, I can do all the different numbers, but I need samples of the font. - Trip 15:15, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for getting around to that...finally. :P I'll see what I can do about getting you some of the other number patches soon, though work has been hell as of late. If you're trying to catch me, you'd be better off leaving a message in the Stargate chat room on Freenode. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 21:03, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Admin/Sidebar
Hello Jaymach. I was wondering if you could make me an administrator here. I have admin experience as I am one on Monk wiki, even if that wiki is... young? (for lack of a better word). And I also have much experience here, having 3,562 edits (the third highest). I was recently contacted by Jeffrey123450 about an idea to put a timeline section into the Monaco-sidebar. It would say timeline and then branch out into each decade listed on the Timeline article (although the timelime article could use a lot of work first, which he was going to do). What do you think about this. If I had admin rights, I could easily do this myself. Thanks for your time,&mdash;Anubis 10545 16:28, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Redirects
Okay, Jaymach, I know that this is what the names were from the DVD magazines, but seriously, you need to use a little common sense when making redirects. The whole "last name, first name" thing is reasonable, but lately, you've been making some very weird ones. I mean "Tritan, The"? "Probe, Wraith"? Who is going to type that? -- SFH 20:14, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I'm making redirects for anything that's named that way in the DVD Collection glossaries, just in case people reading the magazines want to find out more information on the wiki and type the name out exactly as it appears...that and the fact that it does no harm...it's not like we have an article limit. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 21:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Help me
Sorry to bother you, but there are three users (who I suspect are from the same person) Keeps writing down nonsense on the Hive Queen page, and I keep reverting it. Please do something about it, as my patience is getting a little thin now. -- Matthew R Dunn 11:25, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry about taking so long to get around to this; you caught me on the only Sunday I work this week I'm afraid. The page is now locked from new and unregistered users though, so they shouldn't be able to edit it any longer. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 16:57, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Please ban 24.45.199.109, as he/she keeps removing information for the Asgard article. I warned him or her not to do it again, but he/she didn't listen, so please do something about it. -- Matthew R Dunn 23:41, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

****IMPORTANT****
Don't delete my article about earth and tau'ri or i will report you to stargate wiki!
 * I'm one of the admins on the Stargate wiki, so you'd be reporting me to yourself. Your page has been deleted by not just one but two admins already. It is not a suitable article for this wiki and so, if you create it again, it will be deleted over and over. If you continue this behaviour then I am likely to ban you from editting the wiki at all. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 15:36, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Lovejosefin
I'm not sure if this warrants any action, but I'm positive that Lovejosefin is a so-called "sock puppet" of the other usernames listed above - (Sam10, Lo10) etc. The infoboxes on his userpages also match. He may have changed the "style" of his name, but it's him. Evidenced by the same terrible grammar and editing/creation of the same types of articles. I've been following his contributions and fixing them and just going through Sam10's contribution log I've noticed other users have followed his image uploads and articles and corrected them as well. —Ka&#39;lel 05:22, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've known they're the same person ever since he made his first edit, I'm just not really sure what to do about it sadly. His contributions, however, are starting to annoy me also as he's making large assumptions and creating so many Unnamed Planet articles that we just don't need at all. I'll consider doing something later tonight when I'm not about to head off for work, but I'll just leave it in the meantime. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 05:42, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * He's back: User:To10. —Ka&#39;lel 15:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Bureaucrat
Hello Jaymach. With all of these changes you've been making, I was wondering if you could give me Bureaucratic rights. (Not that I'd have to use them anytime soon) but it would be nice for the future. I was just thinking about it the other day... and apparently today as well. &mdash;Anubis 10545 02:05, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Stupid Question...
Why did you move Squad Automatic Weapon M-249 machine gun to what's&mdash;essentially&mdash;a ridiculous and nonsensical name. I mean, it's like calling a Ford Mustang an "automobile Ford Mustang car" or a 747 a "airplane 747 aircraft". Essentially, a Squad Automatic Weapon is a type of machine gun and the proper way to describe one. Please cite your sources for this ridiculous nomenclature. Deathbunny 03:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I moved it to that name because that's what it's called in Stargate SG-1: The DVD Collection 17, Stargate SG-1: The Ultimate Visual Guide and a couple more of The DVD Collection magazines. While I understand that it doesn't make sense when you know the real name of the weapon, we have to go with whatever it's called in the Stargate universe on this website and not include any real-world information in the article. That's what the Wikipedia is for. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 04:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

BC-303
Wait, so do you actually want 3 pages on the same ship. BC-303 really should be a re-direct.&mdash;Anubis 10545 18:38, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I mean, I'm not going on a rampage here. I am entitled to my opinion and I would never let that get in the way of what needs to be done. I genuinely believed that we shouldn't have a BC-303 page be anything more than a redirect. We've had that discussion before and we've all disagreed on it. Heck, some people thought we should just have 1 article altogether regarding Prometheus. But I mean, most of the info on the BC-303 page is directly copied from the X-303 and Prometheus page.&mdash;Anubis 10545 18:46, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * As you'll see from my edit on the Sun Tzu talk page, I'm fine with you having an opinion, and I respect having you as an editor. However, when you shout at people on talk pages and tell them "this will never happen" or "that will never happen" just because you don't like it, it's very unbecoming of someone who is meant to represent this site. While I understand that everyone has their bad days, and I fully accept that I've had my own too, I've seen this to be your behaviour more and more over the past few weeks. I'm not going to go to Wikia staff currently, but I feel it prudent to let you know that your attitude over this time has been making me feel the need to go to them more and more. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 20:53, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I hadn't realized I had been so "demanding/rude". Sorry, and I really didn't mean to be.&mdash;Anubis 10545 20:57, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * In the words of Rodney Mckay: "I'm turning over a new leaf, A kinder, gentler Anubis 10545".

HK SL8
Honestly, that book, I love it but it's got so many screw-ups on the firearms it's ridiculous--even as far as show continuity goes.

I mean, what's the point?

Feh! I give up.

Between that and the illogical OOU stuff.

Deathbunny 03:03, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Believe me, I hated moving that page...I'd much rather have it at the proper real-world name but, as a Stargate source has given a different name for it, we have to assume that maybe it's got a different name in the Stargate universe. I'm happy to keep or expand the behind the scenes section, explaining the problem that we both have with the book/article, but until told otherwise we sadly have to assume that it's the Stargate name for the weapon. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 11:32, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Ship Sizes
Hey Jaymach! I was wondering if it was alright for me to add in relative sizes for the Hive Ship and City Ship articles with around 4 km. for the Hive Ship and 20 km. for the City Ship. I got the one for the Hive Ship by comparing the ship with the Aurora seen in the scene where the allied fleet jumps into hyperspace right before the Battle of Asuras. I got the one for the City Ship by crunching the numbers I got when Rodney made the comment about Atlantis being like Manhattan with gets to about 20 kilometers. We all know that those magazines are by no means accurate or complete, so what do you say?-Railgun88 04:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * We try not to include fan-made lengths on this wiki for the simple reason that they could be completely inaccurate. Though we know the size of Manhattan in real life, who's to say that it's not much smaller in the Stargate universe? Certainly the real Manhattan wouldn't have fit in the area that Atlantis did next to the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco. Additionally, when it comes to visual evidence, we have the problem that each visual effects studio seems to use their own models for ships, or their own dimensions for them. Thus we have ships that go up and down in size a lot or change shape every so often. For this reason, we try to only include official statistics from licensed sources, as visual evidence simply can't be relied upon. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 20:23, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Senator Armstrong
Joseph Mallozzi referenced a "Senator Armstrong" in his blog here. And at the very least, the disambig page would have been useful with just Chloe and the actress, Michasa. Cheers. —Ka&#39;lel 22:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, excellent. I wasn't aware it was on Joe's blog. I've moved the Walker (Senator) page to Armstrong seeing as he doesn't have a first name as of yet, and if you want then you can feel free to create the Armstrong (disambiguation) page for Chloe and the actress. :) &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 22:29, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Advice
A little advice from one Wikia admin to another. All over this wiki the same few grammar errors are made consistently. It is when you are trying to make a word that ends in an "s" possessive. It is consistently wrong all over the place. For example, when you have Atlantis', you are supposed to have Atlantis's. This is a a very common mistake. The key is that you always add 's to the word if it is singular, no matter what the last letter in the word is.—Matt (talk) 12:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * We actually try to follow the Wookieepedia on this one, as some research was done to prove that there's no solid proof that either is wrong. Depending on where you learned English, both of them can be correct. So just because you learned that it was that way, that's not necessarily true for the rest of the world. As such, we try not to force what is both proper and incorrect grammar on people. If you want to correct them, then feel free. But if not, or if they get reverted, then I will not class it as vandalism or incorrect grammar even though I personally do it the same way as you. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 13:27, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually it is still incorrect. I saw nothing more than opinion in the provided links. I'll give an example. Say this out loud: "I am going to Anubis' Ship." Anyone can clearly tell that this is incorrect. Anubis Ship doesn't even remotely sound right. It should be: "I am going to Anubis's Ship." I made it a point to inquire about this to my English professor. The issue is debated yes. But in most professional circles it is preferred to use the way that I have laid out here.—Matt (talk) 02:18, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * For the record, I live in the United States and I've always learned it to be Anubis' ship. But as was said above, it does not matter.&mdash;Anubis 10545 07:25, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * For the record, the Wookiepedia policy is to have no policy. And it is very clear here that the defacto standard on this wiki is to never include the possessive 's'. This is incorrect. Grammatical correctness aside, it is incorrect because that is not how it is used on the shows. I recently went through all of the SGA and SG-1 episodes. Predominately it is Altantis's, Apophis's, Anubis's. There were cases of the other way with certain other things. In particular President Hayes was Hayes'.—Matt (talk) 10:19, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Page move
Hi, I was wondering if you could do a little change on the sidebar concerning the Universe episodes. Recently I moved the article "Water" to "Water (episode)" to create an article about, well water. I just want this to be moved on the sidebar. Thanks. -- Matthew R Dunn 11:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Janet Edit
For some reason, the new image for the Janet Fraiser article doesn't show up for the regular 250px size. I realize the reasons for your edit, but it renders the superior image inert... --JemHadar359 22:39, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that happens sometimes. You just have to leave it and the Wikia servers will catch up and display the new image. Otherwise, although it's not very obvious, you're actually stretching the infobox slightly. The server usually updates in a maximum of 48 hours though, so if it's still not fixed by that time then I'll go to a Wikia staff member about it. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 22:42, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I knew I was very slightly stretching the infobox. So... thanks for your response and see you around the wiki... --JemHadar359 22:21, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The image still hasn't settled in... --JemHadar359 04:51, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Protecting Daniel Jackson
I'm not sure if this warrants enough attention, but over the past two weeks, certain IP addresses keep removing the section about the audiobook from the Daniel Jackson article. I'm asking if the page should be protected to prevent this in the future. Thanks. -- Matthew R Dunn 15:01, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

High Councillor spelling error, supposed to be: High Councilor
I have not the clue how to fix an error like this, maybe a bot is necessary to auto replace. The term 'High Councillor' is spelled wrong, I believe. The correct spelling is 'High Councilor'. There is a page with this term and many, many links throughout the wiki. I am asking if you could teach me to fix a problem of this nature or if you do not have the time, take care of it yourself. Thank you! Shantiousr 21:34, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've went ahead and changed it to High Counselor seeing as it's spelled that way in the screenplay for The Broca Divide and the title isn't actually mentioned by name in any of the Asuran episodes. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 21:54, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, you are extremely quick! Keep up the good work and I will keep doing the little bit I try to do. Shantiousr 21:59, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

about this edit


in the movie, ra clearly does not speak english, only egyptian, and only daniel jackson speaks ancient egyptian. so ra did not interrogate anyone. second, i beleive the jackal headed guard is called "anubis" in the credits/ third, in the ultimate edition DVD, in the note Emmerich does call the ships "wing gliders". and fourth, the concept of first p[rime was created by SG1, and has never appeared in the movie

Hello
Hi Jaymach -- I stopped back by the wiki today and it really looks great! I just wanted to say hi again and remind you guys that if you ever have questions or we can do anything to help with the wiki, especially with Universe coming out this fall, please feel free to drop me a line on my talk page :). -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:10, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey Jaymach, Not to bombard you with too much Wikia love, but my name's Karim and I'm on the Wikia Entertainment team. I wanted to stop by and introduce myself. I've been checking out this wiki and am lovin it!!! I've been a fan of Stargate since the original movie, but have admittedly dropped off since Atlantis. I've had a lot of fun reading up on the spin-offs I've missed. This place is seriously an awesome resource. You guys should really be proud. I'm getting amped for Stargate Universe too. I'll be enjoying DVD marathons while I wait for the new series to start. Btw, other than SG-1, what's your favorite series? Anyways, just wanted to say hi and let you know that i'm available if you have any questions, or need our assistance in any way. Thanks again, -- <font color="Blue">Karim (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 22:30, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

IRC
Jaymach, can you update MediaWiki:Irc-url to use. This way the irc link inside your sidebar will point to your wiki's actual channel instead of #wikia. ~ NOTASTAFF Dantman(Talk) 01:49, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Took care of it.&mdash;Anubis 10545 02:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Stargate timeline
Thank you for sorting out the Stargate hyperlink problems out in the timeline section. I was going to sort them out after work today, but you've saved me a job. Although, i dont know why the hyperlinks went a little kaka in the first place, when i moved the text into the table?!?!?!

Anyway i was the one that did alot of work on the "Before 19th Century" about a year ago, under the name jeffrey123450, but work and uni took over my life. But seeing i have my life back, i decided to get going on the Stargate timeline again, with the new user name "Stargate TL1" (Stargate Time Liner One).

anyway, any problems I miss in the future please let me know.

Jeff

<font color="Blue">Stargate TL1 19:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Front page
Hey Jaymach -- I was just wondering if it would be ok to make a couple of tweaks to the mainpage, or if you would make them...

The first is if you guys would be ok with removing the big "Wikia's Sci-Fi Wikis" box at the bottom? It turns out that too many links on a frontpage actually hurts the wiki from a search-engine result standpoint and those are rarely clicked anyhow so removing them is an easy way to "focus" the page a little bit better without removing any wiki content at all. The entertainment group has been asking wikis to remove them when we see them at this point.

My other question was about the Current Events -- since Atlantis is moving into movies at a date TBA and no longer airing new episodes, but Universe is coming out this fall, could we swap the positions on the two? Just because it's more "Current" at the moment... -- <font color="Blue">Wendy (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 00:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and took care of those...&mdash;Anubis 10545 04:51, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool - Thanks! -- <font color="Blue">Wendy  (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 19:16, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Sam
Isn't there a more permanent way to ban him? Why are we being so lenient when he is repeatedly and knowingly breaking the rules around here? —Ka&#39;lel (talk) (Contribs) 05:04, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately to ban him completely we'd have to ban most of Sweden, which is something I don't want to do. If he continues to come back, however, then it will be something I consider doing. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 17:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * He's currently under the name Destinycity. Cheers. —Ka&#39;lel (talk) (Contribs) 18:43, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I already banned that one last night. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 21:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello
Hi, I'm Shawn, from Wikia Entertainment. I've been taking a look around the wiki and I really like what the community has accomplished so far. This wiki has a lot of potential, too and I want to lend a hand by doing a bit of work to the main page that will help out with navigation and make the wiki a bit more accessible for new users. I'll be playing around with some stuff in a sandbox page and will let all the admins here check it out when I'm done, and you can give me feedback on it. I'm leaving this message with all the other admins so everyone will know what's going on as it happens. Thanks! Shawn ( talk ) 03:58, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, I wanted to leave an update with you and the other admins, I've finished a mockup of a new main page layout that features an image-based portal in greater prominence. Please take a look at it here and let me know what you think! I'd like to hear your feedback. Thanks! Shawn ( talk ) 17:09, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Race
On the article Hale you reverted the Race back to Kelownan from Langaran.

I believe this is incorrect. While his Nationality may be Kelownan, Race is very different. Infact i thought about putting "Tau'ri" there because Kelownan is not a race but a Nationality.

Also you removed the category link to Langaran, yet you kept the 9 others intact. I am confused by this, and i see no harm in linking him to both categories, because he is Kelownan AND Langaran. --Jenkins08 (talk) (Contribs) 15:56, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The category thing is very simple; Kelownan is a subcategory of Langaran. We do not link to both things when one subcat is in another. Otherwise, we'd have to put every Kelownan in Category:Kelownans, Category:Langarans, Category:Milky Way Humans, Category:Humans, and Category:Individuals. Pages only get put in the lowest category in the list. As for the race thing, the Stargate SG-1: The DVD Collection magazines give Kelownan, etc as a race rather than simply a nationality. While you may disagree with that, the magazines are officially published sources which mean we go with them. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 16:10, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand that you rely on Sources to post articles here, but that means something like the Race listed on the article Jack_O'Neill and many others should not be "Tau'ri" but "American". Since American is an in-universe race as you put it. Do you see my point? --Jenkins08 (talk) (Contribs) 16:15, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * If American was indeed given as the race of a person in an official source, then we would change every American article to say race=American rather than race=Tau'ri. As it hasn't done so far, we still keep it as Tau'ri. Kelownan, however, has been given as a race so we use that. Same with the different Simarkan tribes. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 16:18, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha i like the fact that you dictate the content of this Wiki based on printed media. Many times i have read that these "official sources" have got it wrong. Anyways there is a Hierarchy to this that i believe you are missing the point, it goes Species > Race > Nationality. The Simarkan Tribes you link to have "Species" listed but not race. See Here. They are 2 different things. I Am of the Human species, of the Caucasian race, and my nationality is Australian, Australian is not a race it is a Nationality. I know there are certain sources that you like to adhere to, but what if as mentioned above, they got it wrong? --Jenkins08 (talk) (Contribs) 16:28, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * They got it wrong according to how Earth works. You're ignoring the fact that it's entirely possible that, on other planets, people have evolved slightly differently depending on where they come from. For all we know, all Kelownans could have webbed feet whereas Andari don't. Just because it hasn't worked that way on Earth doesn't mean it can't elsewhere (though admittedly that kind of evolution should really take a long time, again that's using our understanding of the real world rather than the Stargate 'verse). As such, we go with whatever official sources say and don't try to disprove them just because that's not how it works in the real world. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 16:34, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok that is a good point but i am not ignoring the fact they may have evolved differently, even though that is not in any official sources or in the show itself. I believe that the only person/s who could answer this properly and informatively would be either Brad Wright, Peter DeLuise or Joseph Mallozzi (The writers). Do any of those 3 people write the official sources that you refer to? (Stargate SG-1: The DVD Collection). If not then my statement may hold some truth. Also unrelated, thanks for the clean-up of the Kathleen Ritter page, I was unaware of the Info box template you changed it to. :) --Jenkins08 (talk) (Contribs) 16:46, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Those writers do not for the magazine, but each one goes to MGM for approval. As these are the people who are actually in charge of the Stargate 'verse (despite some people thinking the writers outrank them) the magazines are completely official. Thus, they go above any fan's opinions (either yours or mine) and we'll always use them on this wiki. While I do understand where you're coming from, and if official sources hadn't used the term as a race then I'd feel the same way as you, I'm afraid we have no proof that Kelownan is not race; the only evidence we have is that it is. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 17:03, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok gotcha, thanks for the info. Glad we had this little chat :) --Jenkins08 (talk) (Contribs) 17:10, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Welcoming New Contributors
When this new bot was introduced to the wiki(s), I remember it coming with a list of instructions for its use, including the option to turn off welcomes. I'd like to ask we turn off the welcomes for unregistered contributors. The edits clog up the recent changes page and I don't like that we're extending a welcome hand/message to the vandals and people who make edits (incorrect or correct) once or twice and never return. Welcoming the people who take the time to make an account is enough, as these are the people who are likely to stick around and make valuable contributions to the wiki. Usually... Cheers. —Ka&#39;lel (talk) (Contribs) 03:00, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well speaking as someone who once was an unregistered user and only registered because he was welcomed and shown what to do some four or five years ago now, I have to say that I'd rather not turn the feature off. What I would like to do, at some point in the future, is change the welcome message being sent to unregistered users giving them better instructions on how to edit and how to register. While it may very well welcome one or two vandal accounts, it will welcome tens of actual contributors for every vandal it will welcome. The only thing I would like to do with it is get Wikia to mark it as a bot so that it doesn't automatically show up in the recent changes list. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 03:10, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Strange edit on the article "Human"
Hey Jaymach i was just reading the Recently changed list and something peculiar has been removed from the page Human.

See Here, Then way back Here.

I'm not sure if the content was removed due to irrelevancy or due to the user vandalising the page for reasons such as religion. Seems to be the one and only edit of This person. Cheers --Jenkins08 (talk) (Contribs) 21:36, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Books
Hey Jaymach, I was wondering, do you have all the Stargate novels? And are there any further plans on adding information from the novels? I have done a couple like Dalera and the Exogenesis device, might do somemore when I can from the few novels I possess though I would appreciate it if you could have a look at them and see that I put the correct information in. —Darth Batrus (talk) (Contribs) 16:24, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * I do indeed have all the Stargate novels, even the ones in foreign languages that I can't understand. :P The only reason I have trouble adding information from them is...I just don't have enough time lately. My job now takes up a lot more time than it used to so I've had trouble actually finding the time to contribute all that much to this wiki. Hopefully I'll get into a better balance sometime soon, but for now I'm unable to do much about it. The work you've done so far has been excellent though...I've checked it as it was added and have tried to fix any problems I found. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 19:05, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool thanks on the help there :) and yeah I understand, things have been hectic for me as well which is why I haven't been able to contribute much recently. I think my only concern in the ones I have added is the Dalera's weapon one which I could not understand entirely. I know in the novel Dalera had a weapon that made use of a Wraith Queen but i was just confused on what it actually did. When I wrote it, I added what I understood but was unsure on purpose so the article really doesn't explain what it does. Any chance you know remember anything about the function of the device that I missed? Anyway thanks for the reply mate, I think you have been doing a great job on this wiki. —Darth Batrus (talk) (Contribs) 14:03, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Italic titles
Why do you add them?

Lantean vs. Ancient Titles
Why do you use "lantean" in reference to everything that is ancient. For example the ship designer is lantean! really that is wrong because the ancients move to the lantean solar system during there last stand against the wraith and way before that they were building city ships and battleship to fight the wraith. --Backlash23 (talk) (Contribs) 15:53, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

I'm sending the message above to you because i see your name that edits most of the pages in the wikia.--Backlash23 (talk) (Contribs) 16:13, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * I changed them because, at the time of creating those ships, they were known as the Lanteans. We have absolutely no evidence that they used the ships while they were in the Milky Way galaxy and known as the Ancients. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 17:30, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

so by what your saying is that they should be call lanteans, eventhough all the humanoid races and other races in the stargate/stargate atlantis series called them ancients.--Backlash23 (talk) (Contribs) 05:22, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

i admitt your right about one thing that the people from the lantean solar system would be call "Lanteans"--Backlash23 (talk) (Contribs) 05:26, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Deleted comment
I would have appreciated a response rather than deleting my comment altogether. - 20:59, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * If you hadn't wanted it deleted then you shouldn't have put the template asking for it to be deleted on the talk page. Because it was on there, I responded in the deletion comment. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 21:33, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll put it on the correct page for it to be deleted, sorry about the confusion. - 21:43, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't understand your logic. There are plenty of other ways for a person to get to Camile Wray's character page. Camille is not her name. If you want us to cater to the chance that someone will misspell a name, why don't we have a Camille Ray page? Teyla Emagan, Tamara Johanson, Jon Shepherd, Daneil Jackson, Ronin Dex, Micheal Kenmore, Tilk. Where does it end? If a reasonably intelligent person misspells something, they will look for the correct spelling or find another way to get there. - 02:06, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * You can create any and all of those pages if you think they'll help people. The reason we have them is because, if you try to search for misspelled names using Wikia's search feature, you get nothing unless there's a redirect page. Try searching for Camile Ray using the box in the top left. I'd prefer to make this site usable and allow people to find the proper pages rather than them assuming we don't have a page about the person and then having to delete it later. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 13:19, October 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * I know what happens when you misspell something in the search bar. I've done it. My next steps went something like this: Try a different spelling and/or find another way to get to the page; which is - as I wrote above - what anyone half-interested in actually finding the page would do. With absolutely reasonable and minimal effort, I find myself at the page I was trying to reach. On another note, did you actually try typing Camile Ray in the search bar? As long as you start correctly, it offers suggestions on what you might be looking for. At "Cam", her name is on the list and by "Cami", it's narrowed down to one result. I'd also like to point out that not one single other wiki does what you are proposing. - 17:00, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, most of the wiki's I go to include spelling errors as redirects...I find that to be the point of redirects. Try searching for Jason Solo on the Wookieepedia, for example. As to the drop-down box, yes I use that myself too...however, a lot of people don't have javascript turned on and so that never activates for them. As for simply searching for other spellings, you're right, most people will indeed simply look under another name. Other people, however, will create the page under their misspelled name and then I'd just be either deleting it or turning that page into a redirect. So instead of giving myself extra work, I just leave the redirects in place seeing as they don't do anyone any harm and instead make it quicker to find people when you don't know how to spell their names. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 19:40, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well that makes sense, but only if those pages are created because people consistently misspell the name in the same way, as would be the case for Camille Wray, but not for when people accidentally press the wrong key or get the name obscenely wrong, for instance there's no Luke Skywaljer page on Wookieepedia. And then deleting that page if someone creates it would tell people "hold on, this has been deleted before". But creating a redirect out of that misspelling isn't harmless, as it can (and has) invited people to link to the redirect page and put their misspellings in articles. That creates the extra work of having to go and fix them all. It also makes finding instances of the misspellings harder. For example, typing "Ronan" gets you to the Ronan page, so to find misspellings we have to do a blank search and then type "Ronan" in one of the search boxes on the blank page. (I just discovered this). Anyways, this point/discussion is probably moot. I went to the central wikia hub and asked about adding a "did you mean..." function to searches and it seems they might include that feature in a later update, solving our problem altogether. Unfortunately, the next update, while it does improve the search greatly, won't include that feature. And by the way, if deleting pages is so much extra work you could always add some new admins to the roster so it doesn't all fall on you and Anubis. Cheers - 21:04, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

intewiki link with fr.stargate.wikia.com
Hi,

I am the admin of the french version of the Stargate Wiki. Is it possible please to add interwiki link to the french version on your interwiki table? Thanks a lot. --LIMAFOX76 (talk) (Contribs) 18:34, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid you'd actually have to talk to Wikia staff about that. Sadly, it's not something I can do myself. I'll try to get in touch with them for you but if you don't hear back from me then please try getting in touch with one of them over on the Central Wikia site.

Stargate Universe Press Pack
Hello, iv added the Stargate Universe Press Kit to wikia. its not finished, but iv made a start. ill have to double check, but i think the DVDs include deleted/extended scenes, not showed in the original airing. feel free to make edit anythin --Stargate TL1 (talk) (Contribs) 22:46, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Administrator Rights
Hey Jaymach, I'd like to request admin rights for the wiki. I entered my name on the SGCommand:Administration page back in December around the time that some user accounts were being cleared, but I'm not sure if you took notice. I've also hinted that I'm interested in the past, but I figured I'd man-up and officially ask you. I think I've proven that I'm here to stay and that I make positive contributions to the wiki. As Anubis commented on my talk page, it really is only the two of you who have administrative powers and actively contribute around here and by adding me to the roster, I can handle my own admin-related edits rather than asking one of you two to help me out. Thanks for the consideration. - 07:04, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * So, Jaymach... hello. About Ka'lel's request above, it would really benefit this wiki (and myself :) if you gave him/her administrative rights. Ka'lel's user status is always getting in his way (such as with this image categorizing project he's doing)... and he's always requesting that I use my admin powers to do something that he\she easily could have done him/herself given these rights. Please take this under advisement... some more :) Thanks.—Anubis 10545 (talk) (Contribs) 22:54, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you; I was actually on holiday in America and so unable to edit very much at all. Now that I'm back, I'm more than happy to give you admin rights at least on a temporary basis (that's how I always do it, then I just leave them be if there's no problem). The reason I hadn't given you them back in December was that I didn't really know you well enough at the time. Now that I've seen how much you contribute, I see no problem with it. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 02:56, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jaymach. I'll make good use of it. Cheers. - 05:45, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Wanted pages
Howdy i'm going to leave this message with Anubis, Ka'lel and Matthew aswell, i made a list of Special:WantedPages that doesn't include the automated (episode) pages.. just something to do if your thinking "hmm not much to edit" LOL yeah right i know, just a thought :). Here's the page User:Jenkins08/wantedpages - - 10:52, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Page for everything
"the reason for this wiki is to have individual pages on everything" -- I find that hard to believe and i also haven't seen that written anywhere in SGCommand:Manual_of_Style or Help:Editing or Help:Contents. I felt the articles such as Curia could be merged into one article Tollan government because there isn't that much info overall. In my opinion it's better to have a medium amount of information in the one place rather than tiny bits of information scattered around like leaves. - - 02:55, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Stubs
When is an article not a stub? What qualifies them to be stubs and not stubs? I was under the impression a stub was a short page with not much information..... Also i didn't add that other info on P2A-870 even though it is incorrect. - - 04:47, December 6, 2009 (UTC) "Stub:A page providing only minimal information and intended for later development."

- Wiktionary.org


 * An article is a stub by that definition. Although here, some people erroneously include the stub template on pages on which no more info can be added as the subject was only briefly mentioned in only a few instances. Like on our Jello article. It was only briefly mentioned a few times and not much more info can be included. But, the template is there anyway... (not that it's supposed to be. You can remove it if you'd like.) Although I suppose that if we wanted to, we could jam an extra sentence or two into that particular article. —Anubis 10545 (talk) (Contribs) 05:19, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Same planet?
Are planet (Allies) the same planet as Planet (The Siege, Part 3)?--DannyJackson (talk) (Contribs) 14:28, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Links between two websites?
How do I made the link as the between France Version of Stargate Command wiki and Stargate Command? I dont known how do it. How do l? I wanna have the same link as between Stargate Command wiki and the France version of Stargate Command.DannyJackson (talk) (Contribs) 12:56, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Canon's ring
Please understand as it is not the same ring, as one shoots lighting while the other heals wounds (Canon's is already at SGC). It is just a prop reuse like many things in stargate such as the wraiths stun staffs. 14:35, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * We have no proof that it's not the same technology, and until we do we have to go with the only evidence we have; as they look the same, they are the same. Please do not revert my edits again, though you are free to write up a behind the scenes section stating that they may be different. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 08:19, February 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * You are wrong ask a mod or admin. the ring used by Canon was never shown to heal and the ring used by vala was never sown to summon/direct lighting, it was a prop reuse just like the wraith spear gun was used by the Bedrosian's in the episode New Ground. ~ Awar 14:35, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way the rule to my understanding is that if a prop reuse is shown but is not used like Zats to assume it may work the same as the other's in previous episodes, however if a device is shown to look the same but preform different function/'s such as a Zat like device that summon ring transporters, to give them their own seperate article pages, with a foot notes to the related pages. I besech you to ask another moderator or admin on the matter then we will see which of us is correct stopping futher edit fights on the related pages Goa'uld healing device & Canon's ring. ~ Awar 14:35, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * If Cannons ring article is to remain the same please do not change the article on the Goa'uld healing device page as I belive that a refrance to the ablitys of Vala's ring is warrented! ~ Awar 14:35, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * As I've said, we've no proof that it's not the same. The only evidence we have (visual) suggest that it is the same device which either has an additional purpose or a purpose the canon's ring in "Demons" was not shown to possess. As I've explained multiple times throughout this site, we do not assume anything. That's why we state on pages, such as the Canon's ring and the Serrakin pistol, that reuses of the prop are the same item unless we get a new name for the other device. It's not a matter of personal choice, because I'd much rather have tons of different technology pages, but it's simply a matter of not assuming anything. If a kara kesh can emit a shield, send out a blast wave, create a wave of energy that damages the brain, control ring transporters, in some cases emit lightning and in other cloak the being wielding it then I see no reason that a simple ring can't both heal and control an AZP, however. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 18:16, February 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Even if that is true, that dose not change the fact that.
 * 1) It is never seen or metioned to do multiple things, unlike the kara kesh which has been seen to do the above mentioned things in many episodes. You are asumming right there that they both work the same, but it is never confirmed anywhere that is an assumption.
 * 2) Vala's ring has a right to be mentioned on the Goa'uld healing device page as they preform very similar if not the same function.
 * I'm perfectly fine with linking to the Canon's ring on the Goa'uld healing device page, but what you did was copy the information from one article to another which is not okay. Also, what evidence do you have that they're not the same? The only evidence we have is visual, which shows the exact same thing performing different functions. Would we create a page for "kara kesh (shield)" just because Apophis had one that created a shield whereas other Goa'uld didn't? No. It looks the same, so we say it's the same. This is the same situation. Until proven to be different, we go with the only evidence we have. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 17:31, February 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * 1) They where proven to be different, by not being shown to do the same things but seperate actions, unlike the kara kesh page which says that not all kara kesh work alike. (What you are doing is assuming that dispite being shown them preforming different actions, That it is the same ring.)
 * 2) I would like to say that I reworded some of the text I copyed and pasted.
 * 3) I was not talking about a link but an actual sub-article on the Goa'uld healing device.
 * If you're talking about creating a subsection on the Goa'uld healing device page then I'm not okay with it. As we already have a page for the Canon's ring, a link is sufficient. And, as I've said before, they look the same therefore they are the same until we have any evidence suggesting otherwise. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 11:33, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Transcripts offical?
Hi, A quick question, I made an edit to the 304 page, using an episode transcript as (the main) proof of my claim (you may read the discussion page) and you reverted my edits. So I would like to known if you consider transcripts official sources of information? Can they be used as official proof? --Uriel718 (talk) (Contribs) 20:48, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * The official transcripts (which were once on the MGM site, but seem to be taken down now) can be used as official proof. These only covered the ten seasons of Stargate SG-1 and the first three seasons (mostly) of Stargate: Atlantis. If you need any then I have saved copies and am more than happy to send them. That having been said, the edit to the 304 page was reverted because it's only a 304 in an alternate reality which has the modification, which was already noted on that page. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 22:51, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * So the transcripts that Gateworld has, are Fan created? Good to know. As for the 304 page, I am aware that the Phoenix had an Asgard core in the episode The Last Man, and that this happend in an alternate timeline, but that was not what I was reffering to. The evidence I had were the episodes Search and Rescue, and The Lost tribe. In which we, at the very least see an Asgard computer core console, on board the Deadalus. I have added a snapshot to the discussion page. --Uriel718 (talk) (Contribs) 09:23, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Earth address
Glyphs was resized and they do not break the infobox size! Mine infobox is just fine Vilnisr (talk) (Contribs) 15:20, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * It breaks it on the Earth page. They stretch it enough that the outline disappears and the text goes behind the infobox. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 15:22, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

svg
I try to upload svg, but it do not appear, maybe you know why, or maybe you can convert to svg Vilnisr (talk) (Contribs) 16:00, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Drones
I noticed that the edit I made drones page was removed. I am curious as to why.
 * It was purely speculative information... nothing was shown on the show to hint at such an occurrence. —Anubis 10545 (talk) (Contribs) 03:33, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

I said it was possible. During part one of The Siege Weir mentions weapons designs when she is discussing what data in the Ancient Database to keep on the hard drive the Tau'ri brought from Earth. I was just stating that their is the possibility that the Tau'ri could possibly produce drones in the future. Of course it is speculative, though it is based on what has been cannonical information.
 * I know, but that's also like saying that, one day, the Tau'ri could create a city-ship like Atlantis or build a Stargate themselves from scratch. It just doesn't really bear any significance... especially because the Tau'ri have expressed really no desire to do so. —Anubis 10545 (talk) (Contribs) 07:01, March 3, 2010 (UTC)