Talk:Goa'uld

Biology merged into the main article?
Should the biology and culture sections be merged into the Goa'uld article? I mean the Wraith have everything in one article as do the Asurans. —Darth Batrus 12:24, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I suppose so. -- SFH 16:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well I was thinking it's either that or say perhaps move all the biology related material to the Symbiote article. I only say this because I have gone a recent crusade to add references to all the articles and expand on them :) —Darth Batrus 11:27, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Joke
How do Goa'ulds order their Hamburgers???...... Ra (w).&mdash;Anubis 10545 04:34, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol, I've heard better :D

What did the goa'uld give to the Wraith at Christmas? ...... a Jaffa Cake — ElChristo (talk) (Contribs) 03:05, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * is that actually where they got the name? —Asdf1239 (talk) (Contribs) 03:48, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * It makes sense. Both Jaffa and Pastries are among the most evil things in the universe! Especially custard-filled pastries... although I imagine that a Jaffa stuffed with custard probably wouldn't be too happy either. I'm sure the larval Goa'uld inside would enjoy it though. :)


 * Seriously though... I have no idea. It would be interesting though. :) —Anubis 10545 (talk) (Contribs) 05:36, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * looks like "jaffa" has a variety of meanings...—Asdf1239 (talk) (Contribs) 07:37, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Plural form(s)
In some episodes of the first and second season I'm sure that I've heard the term "the Goa'uld s " und not "the Goa'uld". (I know the difference between s and 's, so don't come up with this idea ...) I first recognized it in the German synchro version and thought that they first used "die Goa'ulds" and than switched to "die Goa'uld" but than I heard it in some of the original versions, too. Can anyone confirm that the plural form of this term was changed within the series? Conservator (talk) (Contribs) 18:33, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * It was indeed, though there's the occasional character or two that still says Goa'ulds later in the series. &mdash;Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 19:09, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Asgard as Goa'uld hosts?
In the hosts section, it is said the the Asgard can be taken as hosts. While I believe this may be true, it references to Stargate, the movie. I've watched the original movie, the entire SG-1 series, most of SGU, Stargate Continuum and Ark of Truth and some of SGA but I haven't heard of this. II can't find any hint of the Asgard in the movie either(probably because the series changes quite a bit of stuff from the movie). Maybe the link was meant to reference to something in SGA because I've heard of Asgards that lived in Pegasus though I don't think there were Goa'ulds there.
 * In the original movie, Famrir was a host of Ra. It is unknown if this transfers to the series. —Anubis 10545 (talk) (Contribs) 07:46, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ah... I saw that weird looking alien but never realised it was an Asgard! Thanks Valos Cor (talk) (Contribs) 00:14, January 25, 2010 (UTC)Valos Cor

p.s. not sure how to reply properly he he

What really makes the Goa'uld gods?
Even though I have seen virtually every episode of stargate SG-1, there is always a puzzling question that I don't understand. Why is it that the Goa'uld are viewed as gods? one would think it to be the illusion of their technology, but most of this technology is operated by Jaffa who must know and understand its workings if they are to efficiently use and repair it, If they didn't then it would be logistically impossible to maintain an army (imagine a Nimitz class carrier where there are no technicians to repair and service the many problems that may accumulate in any used aircraft and there would be even more things to deal with in maintaining a space fleet) the goa'uld also obviously have significant industrialization and uniform manufacturing processes for their ships and weapons and it is likely humans who work in these assembly lines and shipyards, so how are they supposed to know how to produce these things, the magic of the gods?, or intricate technical assembly and specialized manufacturing. And then there are the goa'uld themselves, its not like the Jaffa who serve them don't know they are parasites (every one of them carries around one of those frikin things) so what sorts of divinity do the goa'uld ever show, they cannot be immortal without a sarcophagus (and the people who produce those things must know what they do and how they work) and hand devices are just another form of technology, just one that requires a specialized physiology (of coarse it never is explained how naquadah is introduced into a goa'uld's system but it has to be introduced somehow by somebody who must know it has a reason). the simple fact of the matter is that there are very few goa'uld (maybe about 150-300 in existance at any one time) and they need all of their servants have to fashion the instruments with which the goa'uld claim divine power. The possibility that all of these servants simply do not communicate with each other their individual responsibilities in creating and using the "magic of the gods" simply cannot be true. The truth is that goa'uld divinity is a thin illusion (especially amongst the jaffa) and surely more would have noticed that they cannot do anything "godly" without the technology others make for them, rather than rejecting their gods them simply because of their cruelty.--99.141.200.51 21:46, February 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * When it coems to Jaffa understanding the technology, I think the Jaffa have only a very basic understanding of putting parts together, but lack the knowledge of all the details of their workings, they just know how to operate things, and attach things, they dont really understand all the programing, the energy source, all that. They patch things up, can work with metals, operate the computer, but lack the knowldege of all the details. We often at least see one Goa'uld per Ha'tak, or fleet, in some cases, often there are multiple Goa'uld on a major Ha'tak. Many devices, like the hand devices, there is no evidence that Jaffa had the least effort into creating, this the Goau'd may do behind closed doors. All we really know that JAffa do is the basic metalworking, mining and operating of technologies. We might assume they assemble the larger peices of ships together, or the basic metwlorking side of the fold up helmets, but we dont see anything of them assembling the minute devices, the parts responsible for making it all work.


 * On another related manner, why did the egyptians consider Pharoah's as Gods, they were just powerful men born in a powerful family, yet worshiped after their deaths. Some great leaders in the ancient era's were considered God's by their men, or claimed to be. Its often just because they are so powerful, that they might as well be God's to the others, in the case of the Goa'uld they are far more credible then the original Pharoahs, they posses powerful devices, can heal the sick with a wave of their hand(and a small device), where A Jaffa cant, use devices no Jaffa understands, among many other things. They live for hundreds, even thousands of years, without the Sarcophogas to keep them alive.74.129.75.153 09:34, February 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * this is all known as "religion". —Asdf1239 (talk) (Contribs) 12:03, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

The Jaffa taught their children from the early years on that the Goa'uld are their gods, so maybe the logical thinking about the question what makes them gods never arises. Ideology is very strong when it is put into people in the early years. And we have to remember the fact that the Goa'uld are really professional brainwashers ... even Teal'c who knew that a Guld is no god but just a parasite being from somewhere's swamps suddenly believed all the religious crap after they brainwashed him one time ... there, so I think, are often critical minds who have doubts about the god state of the Gulds but they get denunciated by their Jaffa brothers and brainwashed. Or they keep their real believes secret and don't state it to others because they fear death ... the whole Goa'uld reign is based on religious fanatism and fear. / The same today: Why are so many Muslims ready to die for their "god"? Conservator (talk) (Contribs) 21:52, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

The Goa'ulds' own view of godhood
A view weeks ago I watched an episode from (so I think) the ninth season where Ba'al tries to become head of the Jaffa Nation. In this episode he states what he and the other system lords just played the role of almighty gods. So there arises the question within me: Are the Goa'uld themselves aware of the fact that they are no gods and just fool the Jaffa or have they become so arrogant because of using sacrophages for such a long time what they really believe they are real gods? Ba'al seems to know he's no god but maybe this awareness came just after the Jaffa crushed down the Goa'uld rule over their people an the Goa'uld had to see by the hard tour that they can't be gods in the face of these happenings ... Conservator (talk) (Contribs) 21:42, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * This depends on which Goa'uld you're asking. Some believe their own propaganda while others do not.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 21:44, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

So what Goa'uld knew for example they're are just parasites and not deities? Are there any known who stated they're aware that they are just playing a role? (Before the Jaffa victory!) Conservator (talk) (Contribs) 21:55, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Before the victory no Goa'uld would actually admit they weren't gods. Ones like Anubis and Apophis believed strongly in being gods while Ba'al and Camulus not so much.  ¥ S uper N ovice ↔ T alk 2 M e  ¥ 21:59, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

main goa'uld population
where does the majority of the common folk goa'uld reside, since the system lords are the ruling caste and the jaffa comprise most of the military, surely there are some remaining even after the system lords kicked the bucket, also what do the minor goa'uld do in the army/fleet besides being ashraks/underlords...e.g are there goa'uld crewmen on ha'taks — 08:18, March 12, 2010 (UTC)