Talk:Sun Tzu (spaceship)

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when you look at the name, don't you think this ship might belong to the Chinese.—Tau&#39;ri 21300 13:28, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * That's a really good point, there was no mention of who it belongs to, and that's a fantastic explaination of how it came out of nowhere and finished completion before the General Hammond (Phoenix). It explains a lot. —Ka&#39;lel 16:56, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, do you mean the Chinese constructed it, or that we gave it to them like we gave the Russians the Korolev? We only gave them that so we could keep the Stargate. It doesn't really seem likely that we would, out of the blue, give the Chinese a ship. I mean, they really haven't participated much with the Stargate Program (where as the we sent out Russian SG Teams). So it seems kind of reckless to give a ship to a people who know almost nothing about the galaxy and have never been out there before.&mdash;Anubis 10545 18:58, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * When Tau'ri 21300 mentioned it, I immediately assumed he meant it was Chinese built, because you're right, I couldn't see us just handing over a 304. And Shen Xiaoyi immediately came to mind as someone who would have had a hand in that. —Ka&#39;lel 22:16, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

it could also be possible that we gave the chinese the blue prints for a bc-304 so that they can also make some instead of only the US making and controlling em. cuz like right now, we r only representing the U.S basically. the tauri as a whole aren't a major power in 2 galaxies. the United states of america is as the ships belong to us.—SupremeCommander 22:41, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

What i think is that while the US have the ability to produce the bc-304s it can't produce solely on it or on a massive scale so they gave the chinese the blue print hoping that the chinese can help built some bc-304s and it's very likely that the US also gave the russian a blue print as will. and since the chinese have a large population and a large work force they were able to make the Sun Tzu faster than the United States.
 * I can picture a sticker slapped on the Sun Tzu's underside... "Made In China" :) &mdash;Anubis 10545 06:27, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

How could the chinese build this ship if they dont have naquadah or trinium. You cant build a 304 without those materials and those items arent even on Earth.—Tau&#39;ri 21300 09:35, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow, you think that someone would have said that before... that's major. I mean, I guess they could have had it imported from the US... it's just really unlikely.&mdash;Anubis 10545 09:38, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * that is one posibility. The U.S. could have imported half of their supply naquadah and trinium and the chinese might hav bin able to build one.—Tau&#39;ri 21300 09:52, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

It's always possible that the Chinese managed to extort a ship out of the United States (or perhaps the raw materials needed to build one) through events not shown on Stargate Atlantis. 67.142.130.14 20:28, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I think so too, I can remember that somewhere in season 9 of SG-1 ("The ties that bind" if I remember correctly) the Chinese made a move for the stargate, but when the Russians backed the USAF for a 304 they failed. It's possible that the US government gave them a 304 to keep the Chinese in their cage--Scratzin 14:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I think you're all over analyzing it. It's just a name, the name was chosen for the connection to the military, (the man not the country). I mean do you really think that the Romans built the Apollo? The Greeks built the Daedalus? I can't imagine poor General Hammond sitting there building an entire ship all by himself. But if you want to talk about out sourcing the the ship, don't forget there are allies on other planets who have naquadah and trinium and could built the ship in whole or at least in parts. Tydamann 23:54, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


 * It's just speculation given the naming convention and the fact that it appeared out of nowhere before the General Hammond was completed. Theres a reason none of these theories are on the article page, we're just thinking out loud here. You're right though, it could be just a name. —Ka&#39;lel 00:00, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

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I wonder if we ever see the Sun Tzu in the episode, haven't seen the entire episode myself yet, or if it's just mentioned. If we do see it, can somebody dig up an image. —Swedish guy 15:51, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The battle it is in is skipped in the DVD Screener; there is a chance it may be included in the final release of the episode, but I doubt it. It never appeared on screen. —Ka&#39;lel 16:02, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Too bad, that space battle would have been awesome. In the Apollo and Battle of the ZPM powered Hive Ship article, This image was the only thing I could find to depict the battle. Although I doubt that would make sense in the infobox on the Sun Tzu article.&mdash;Anubis 10545 19:29, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Was this the first time the ship was mentioned? I don't recall it being mentioned, but was just wondering. On the article it does say 'Year introduced 2009' and there were only 2 episodes in 2009, but was it mentioned in any previous episodes? If so should there be a first 'mention/acknowledgement' and a 'first appearance'...even though it never actually appeared, but hopefully might be seen in the DVD? Tydamann 23:58, 12 January 2009 (UTC)